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| Earl |
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mo_flixx wrote: Earl wrote: mo_flixx wrote:
However DIVING BELL beats out THE SEA INSIDE (which I found boring) in the way the film's flashbacks (or are they?) open it up. The fantasies and underwater shots bring a surreal element to the storytelling.
I'm intrigued by your "or are they" comment referring to the flashbacks. With spoiler warnings if needed, please say what makes you wonder about whether or not they might really be flashback scenes? It never occurred to me that they weren't.
The scene I had in mind was
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the one with the girlfriend and their trip to Lourdes. Maybe you'd consider it a fantasy, but it seemed heavily rooted in reality.
Perhaps I misunderstood you. I was under the impression from your original comment that you were the one who considered it fantasy. I'd agree with your last few words that the Lourdes scene, as well as all the other flashbacks, were rooted in reality.
Well, except, of course, for the cute moment in which he envisioned himself as a young Marlon Brando. That was obviously just him winking at the audience. |
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| Syd |
| Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:51 pm |
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Here's an interesting quote from Kristin Thompson's article in David Bordwell's blog. (www.davidbordwell.net). It concerns the milkshake analogy in There Will Be Blood and is a bit of a spoiler, so I'll put it in white:
By the way, according to a story in USA Today, director Paul Thomas Anderson derived the dialogue from “a transcript he found of the 1924 congressional hearings over the Teapot Dome scandal.” Sen. Albert Fall described oil drainage thus: “Sir, if you have a milkshake and I have a milkshake and my straw reaches across the room, I’ll end up drinking your milkshake.” He was convicted of taking bribes for oil rights on public lands. |
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| mo_flixx |
| Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:02 pm |
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Re: Earl's comments.
I'm not sure that it is so easy to distinguish what is fantasy vs. what is flashback in THE DIVING BELL AND THE BUTTERFLY. I think that's part of what is at its core as a truly superior film.
I find some of it extremely hard to classify...which, as a voyage inside the mind of Bauby, it should be.
There is a layer of subjectivity which covers almost everything we see and experience in the movie. |
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| Ghulam |
| Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:25 pm |
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Syd wrote: Persepolis is the film version of a graphic book of the story which was drawn in the same style as the film. Doing it as an animated film makes a lot of sense.
True. Nevertheless the story would have made a great non-animated movie too. |
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| Syd |
| Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:50 pm |
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| There was an animated movie called Millennium Actress that came out a few years ago that I realized was something that could have been done live-action with no harm to the story. The same director did Paprika, which really does need the animation. |
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| Marilyn |
| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:38 am |
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| Still, I loved how Marjane went through puberty. It would take a costumed, quick-cut sequence to accomplish in live action what a pen can do effortlessly. |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:48 pm |
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http://www.readfive.com/the-current-issue/
Click on "Away From It All" to read about the documentary "Off the Grid: Life on the Mesa."
That's the movie about the renegade community outside Taos. |
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| inlareviewer |
| Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:00 am |
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| carrobin |
| Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:53 am |
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| carrobin |
| Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:53 am |
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| I just knew they couldn't let the Academy Awards broadcast go down the tubes. |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:54 am |
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| Sorry about that. I thought I'd canceled the first one. |
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| mo_flixx |
| Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:33 pm |
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For inla --
I'm curious if you think these picks would come close to the Academy's choices. I'm entering a contest and would be interested in feedback from an LA insider. I've based them mostly on the SAG and DGA awards.
Best Picture: NCFOM
Best Actor: Daniel Day Lewis
Best Actress: Julie Christie
Supp. Actor: J. Bardem
Supp. Actress: Ruby Dee
Best Director: The Coens |
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| inlareviewer |
| Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:35 am |
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mo_flixx wrote: For inla --
I'm curious if you think these picks would come close to the Academy's choices. I'm entering a contest and would be interested in feedback from an LA insider. I've based them mostly on the SAG and DGA awards.
Best Picture: NCFOM
Best Actor: Daniel Day Lewis
Best Actress: Julie Christie
Supp. Actor: J. Bardem
Supp. Actress: Ruby Dee
Best Director: The Coens
The Springfield Stonecutters grokked on No Country, think the Coens are da bomb, lust for the living legends, have mom issues and relate to evil mens. They rig every Oscar night. |
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| Ghulam |
| Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:10 am |
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| The documentary The King Of Kong is an interesting study of the intense competition for top honors in video games, specifically Donkey Kong. The psychlogy of the champion and the challenger is well presented. Most of the movie has home video quality. Interesting but somewhat limited in scope compared, to say, Wordplay, the documentary on crossword puzzles. |
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| inlareviewer |
| Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:48 am |
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| Deleted for inadvertent TRIPLE-post. I need a vacation. 8 years is too long to go without. |
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