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chillywilly
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:40 am Reply with quote
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My guess is Rod didn't like NCfOM.

Just a guess from his cleverly-written post.

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ehle64
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:37 pm Reply with quote
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Cryptic mofo.

Lady_W & I are going to 4,3,2 on Monday night. Thanks for the headsup about it. Now I feel I'll be more prepared.

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billyweeds
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:38 pm Reply with quote
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gromit--Use spoiler alerts and tell me your problem with the title of 4...3...2....

Audience was quiet throughout. No coughing, no nothing except the occasional uneasy chuckle.

That scene at the table at the boyfriend's parents' house was one of the ten most amazing scenes I've ever seen in a movie.
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Befade
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 2:03 pm Reply with quote
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I hope 4, 3, 2 comes here. It was featured at the Palm Springs Film Fest but I wasn't there that day.
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Ghulam
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 2:34 pm Reply with quote
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Julie Taymor's Across the Universe is a love story set in the 60's against the background of the beatniks, the anti-war movement and free love and told through Beatles' songs. It is visually as well as acoustically beautiful. I enjoyed it.
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Syd
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 7:55 pm Reply with quote
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There Will Be Blood is a good movie for about the first two hours specifically until the confrontation between Daniel and his son, when it slips off the tracks and never quite recovers. At the same time Daniel Day-Lewis's performance, which has been pretty good until this point, turns into ham. Daniel Plainview is never really likeable, but you can see how he can achieve what he does. It's interesting to watch him build his fortune and not very interesting to watch him after he achieves it.

The movie is based on Upton's Sinclair's novel Oil!, which I haven't read. Apparently the focal point of the novel is the son rather that the father, but if you've seen the movie, you'll understand why the writer and director chose to switch to the father. There's a big difficulty using the son as the focal character. It could be done, but I suspect it's better the way they chose to do it. It also means they effectively filmed a novella, which I think is the right length for a story to be adapted. This may also explain why I thought the movie falters when it did. That would be about the point when the father's story becomes less central.


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billyweeds
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 7:56 pm Reply with quote
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Almost 24 hours after seeing it, I am still haunted by 4 Months... and thinking about it whenever I can get my mind off the Obama campaign. It really is a powerhouse of a movie. The fact that it was snubbed by Oscar is a disgrace.

It joins my three nominees for the Blanche (which I'm waiting to reveal) and Killer of Sheep as five of my favorite movies of the last decade.
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inlareviewer
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 8:33 pm Reply with quote
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Rod wrote:
No Country For Old Men

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Huh?
That sums it up for many, even some who adored it (insert rolling on the floor laughing out loud emoticon here)

On 4 Months: Am so glad it's being discussed. Easily the biggest Snub in a year of several, though at least the boneheads on the committee gave advance notice by leaving it off the short list prior to the nods. Expect the Aclademy to revamp their Foreign Language requirements yet again in the future.

Meanwhile, in a break between unprepossessing theater assignments, I finally cracked open Once, but my thoughts belong in the Couch forum.

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mo_flixx
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 11:21 pm Reply with quote
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[quote="gromit"]
billyweeds wrote:
Saw 4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days and was stunned. It's one of the most depressing movies imaginable, but also one of the most exhilarating because of the brilliance of its creation.

Assuming you saw it in the theater, how did the audience react?
I'd imagine stunned silence after that gut-punch of a film is over.
Great film.
Sure hope more people get to see it.

One interesting thing about the title.
4 luni, 3 saptamani si 2 zile in Romanian, which is apparently the closest modern language to Latin. Luni refers to the moon, so months. Saptamani has that "sept" prefix for 7, equals a week. But then the "zile" for day is a curveball. Listening to the sparse dialogue, I found myself able to pick out some Romanian-English cognates....
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Check out the Swiss national language, Romansch - one of 4 besides Fr., Ger., and Italian. This is also another MODERN lang. which is close to Latin.

BTW, Romanian also uses Slavic words such as ¨da¨ for yes.
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Rod
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 5:08 am Reply with quote
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"Cryptic mofo"...boy I'd like to see the reaction if I called someone that without a smiley face.

I didn't hate No Country for Old Men, but I didn't like it much either. Its visceral impact cleared very quickly to leave a yawning void at its heart. Anyway, my proper review'll be on Ferdy soon.

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jeremy
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 7:59 am Reply with quote
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My reaction, which unfortunately confirmed my preconceptions, was that NCfOM is essentialy an escapist film that hides its emptiness in the thrill of the chase and its carefully considered, rowd pleasing viscerality. It was still good though.

The delicously disturbing Barton Fink remains my favourite Coen film.

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jeremy
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 8:02 am Reply with quote
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How could the Oscar noms for foreign film be so far out. I was incredulous when I saw the selections.

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billyweeds
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 8:03 am Reply with quote
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Though Barton Fink may well be my least favorite Coen movie (proving that I'm not just jumping on some Jeremy "bandwagon"), a second viewing of NCFOM doesn't hold up too well. It's extraordinarily well made but much more superficial than it originally seemed.
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billyweeds
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 8:08 am Reply with quote
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jeremy wrote:
How could the Oscar noms for foreign film be so far out. I was incredulous when I saw the selections.


Although I've seen none of the five nominees and therefore can't definitively say they're unworthy, the omission of a film as inarguably great as 4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days is unforgiveable.

Also saw 2 Weeks in Paris again last night and was charmed anew and even more in awe of the multi-talents of Julie Delpy.

SORT OF A 2 WEEKS IN PARIS SPOILER:

Many people seemed to think the movie ended with a clear indication that the couple was splitting up. I think it was far more ambiguous than that. The relationship was IMO clearly open-ended.
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jeremy
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 8:13 am Reply with quote
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Perhaps, I should temper my indignation, I have only sen two of the films nominated, Like Billy, I was mainly stirred by the sin of omission rather than being angered at those included.

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