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lady wakasa
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:54 pm Reply with quote
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My coworker's telling me that Heath Ledger is dead, and the NYT is confirming it.

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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:54 pm Reply with quote
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lady wakasa wrote:
inlareviewer wrote:
Animated Feature: Persepolis


They were determined to do that, not matter what anyone else was planning. "You will be an animated feature nomination, no matter what you want."

Although I think it stands an excellent chance of winning. (I think.)

I'm a little bummed they couldn't even get Lust, Caution under Adapted Screenplay, but what are ya gonna do.
I'm thinking that Ratatouille is a Mortal Lock on the award, but if there's an upset, it will come from Persepolis, not Surf's Up (though how nice that Penguin Love still persists in Racsoland, he said sardonically). Nobody really saw Lust, Caution, sad to say. Not that that finally matters, actually, for this morning reconvinces me that more of the membership votes based on their conversations with each other, their hairdressers, their bartenders, etc., than on what they've actually seen. Seriously. Stacks of screeners around the town unopened every year, and this year especially so.

The failure of the Denzel campaign, the Weinstein push, the Into the Wild rally and various Disney/Fox/Groening strategies are telling. Sweeney's absence from the sound editing and mixing categories is a shame, and I just love how Atonement directed itself, just as La Linney apparently played opposite and around herself (but am thrilled to see her recognized, and Tommy Lee for Elah, and the Mmes Jenkins, Oliver and Polley, and certainly Viggo! -- though not a huge surprise, firmly placed in the ad wars for some time, The Scene being Buzz Fodder long before the film opened in the fall). The unseen DVD/What The Peeps Are Renting factors weighed heavier than ever. I mean, Norbit got an nomination.
Norbit. If that doesn't put it all in perspective, nothing can.
Plus, it's official: Cate Blanchett is Oscar's Darling and Hollywood's Designated Mrs. Gummer Successor, for while merely the publicity shots of her Dylan turn cemented that nom, it took more than Serious Professional Awe to overcome the piece of moldy cheesy rarebit that was the Elizabeth follow-up.

However, on the aggregate, am bemused to note, having been up since 3:30 today and answering the post-filing phones non-stop until now (with the brief pop-in to Blancheland for Cinematographic sentiment's sake), nobody in Hollywood, save for the nommed and non-nommed, and even to a degree, them, nobody is in anything like the usual Aclademy morning mode. In short, the town's finally awakened to what The Debacle told them about AMPAS. Yes, the producer/writer talks informally resumed today, but they resumed and disbanded in like fashion all last year. And there's a month to go before the show goes on, while the WGA is all too conscious of both their diminishing cachet and what a statement picketing the show would be , and Gil Cates' recent pronouncements about how, essentially, it's a TV show and there are 80 years of clips to cull from, have already sucked a great deal of enthusiasm for the rituals out of an already despondant Industry before this morning's basically ho-hum return to Eclectic Diaspora. When the movies that are cleaning up are things like Alvin and Cloverfield, nobody's much interested in The Veneer of Respectability. Not to mention the unsettled, already vacillating corresponding industries, like fashion and cuisine and gift-bag-fillers and many, many, many advertisers, who hardly would throw money at a Super Bowl Clip Show, so why should they rally around ABC if that's what the movie version of the Super Bowl is going to be? As seldom, real-life concerns of self-preservation are more immediately on the minds of Tinseltownians than self-celebration and the next career arc. The looming recession is another, and the front-loaded Presidential Gold Derby a third.

And the just breaking tragic news about Heath Ledger is shocking beyond all words to tell, as the all-too-familiar sensation of white paint descends on my brain from the inside.

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/22/actor-heath-ledger-is-found-dead/

We just keep editing to keep from crying.


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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:00 pm Reply with quote
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Man, what a shame-- I never would have guessed he'd be the next to leave. 28 years old....
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:07 pm Reply with quote
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inlareviewer wrote:
And the just breaking tragic news about Heath Ledger is shocking beyond all words to tell, as the all-too-familiar sensation of white paint descends on my brain from the inside.

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/22/actor-heath-ledger-is-found-dead/
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Man, that is very shocking news... very sad.

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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:18 pm Reply with quote
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421 Broome St. I think that is my uncle's old building where he had his smallwares wholesale. I worked there for a few months. If it is at the corner of Broome and Mercer that's his old building. Of course he sold it before the Soho explosion and didn't get a lot of money for it.

I only saw Ledger in Knight's Story (I'm not sure if that's the correct title) which I liked and I liked him too.
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Brad Renfro, Suzanne Pleshette and Heath Ledger. Two very, very talented young men and a beautiful legend.

I'm absolutely shocked about Ledger, he always stayed under the radar so I wasn't aware that he was into drugs. I know it hasn't been determined yet, but damn. What a horrid waste.

I never expect anyone young to die by thier own hand, it shocks and saddens me every single time.

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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:33 pm Reply with quote
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Jynx wrote:
Brad Renfro, Suzanne Pleshette and Heath Ledger. Two very, very talented young men and a beautiful legend.

As my mom used to say, "They all go in three's"

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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:34 pm Reply with quote
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marantzo wrote:
421 Broome St. I think that is my uncle's old building where he had his smallwares wholesale. I worked there for a few months. If it is at the corner of Broome and Mercer that's his old building. Of course he sold it before the Soho explosion and didn't get a lot of money for it.

I only saw Ledger in Knight's Story (I'm not sure if that's the correct title) which I liked and I liked him too.


The word was that it was Mary-Kate Olsen's apt., but then maybe that's wrong.
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:38 pm Reply with quote
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That's my point chilly but, damn, Heath Ledger? How do these young talents go without notice? Now it's being written he had a substance abuse problem and people knew. As it was with Renfro ... doesn't anyone care enough to be around these people? Renfro's problems were known to the public, obviously most of the public didn't know about Ledger. Where are their friends and families?

Gads, I get yelled at for taking a something before I go into the mall (I totally freak out in wide open spaces like that) by my best friend.

Loved Renfro in The Cure and Ledger in Monster's Ball and, of course, Brokeback Mountain.

This makes my stomach hurt.

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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:41 pm Reply with quote
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Yeah that's what I read. They made all those old wholesales into condos and art galleries.
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mo_flixx wrote:
The word was that it was Mary-Kate Olsen's apt., but then maybe that's wrong.

The updated NYT article is corrected, in that it was not Mary-Kate's apartment.

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marantzo wrote:
421 Broome St. I think that is my uncle's old building where he had his smallwares wholesale. I worked there for a few months. If it is at the corner of Broome and Mercer that's his old building. Of course he sold it before the Soho explosion and didn't get a lot of money for it.

I only saw Ledger in Knight's Story (I'm not sure if that's the correct title) which I liked and I liked him too.


I saw him in Brokeback Mountain and Casanova on the same day. Also saw him in The Brothers Grimm and Monster's Ball.

Oh, and Knight's Tale too.

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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:03 pm Reply with quote
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Jynx wrote:
That's my point chilly but, damn, Heath Ledger? How do these young talents go without notice? Now it's being written he had a substance abuse problem and people knew. As it was with Renfro ... doesn't anyone care enough to be around these people? Renfro's problems were known to the public, obviously most of the public didn't know about Ledger. Where are their friends and families?

Gads, I get yelled at for taking a something before I go into the mall (I totally freak out in wide open spaces like that) by my best friend.

Loved Renfro in The Cure and Ledger in Monster's Ball and, of course, Brokeback Mountain.

This makes my stomach hurt.


I totally understand your frustration, but addiction is so insidious that all the common sense in the world doesn't make a bit of difference until the addict bottoms out. For some, unfortunately, the bottom is six feet under.
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:15 pm Reply with quote
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billy, i was watching intervention the other night and the couselor said something that made me think. he said "sometimes the addict's bottom isn't there bottom, it's your bottom. if it's enough to get them into rehab maybe it's enough to make them see the damage they're doing."

very insightful, maybe going to get everyone to just shut up will do it. with any kind of addiction, something has to be better than nothing.

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This site has clips from the animated shorts up for the Oscar. I like the look of Peter and the Wolf, which combines stop-motion animation and CGI, . I Met the Walrus is visually striking and I think I'd really hate it. Can't really tell about the other three. I always enjoy tracking down the full-length versions of these.

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