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Nancy

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 11:32 pm

Joined: 20 May 2004 Posts: 4607 Location: Norman, OK

I really liked Eastern Promises. The only problem I had was with Viggo's accent. Every time he opened his mouth I kept expecting him to say something about Moose and Squirrel.

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Marj

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:50 am

Joined: 21 May 2004 Posts: 10497 Location: Manhattan

I just saw it. How perfect. I liked it a lot but can't say I loved it. I felt it was a tad slow going at first but when it picked up, it really picked up.

Of course having just seen it I need to let it sink in. But I will say I didn't find it the least bit predictable. And I loved how subtly the surprise was revealed.

I remember loving AHoV. I hope as EP sinks in more, I'll feel the same way about that.

And Nancy, I had a similar problem. Not only did I struggle to understand both Cassel and Mortenson, I kept getting thrown by the film going back and forth between subtitles and English. Especially when a Russian was talking to a Russian. This could due to watching at home rather than in a theater though.

I thought everyone in EP was excellent. Mortensen and Armin Mueller-Stahl were top notch. So was Naomi Watts. I think I'm already beginning to love this movie.

I out to stop posting for now.

chillywilly

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:51 am

Joined: 20 May 2004 Posts: 8251 Location: Salt Lake City

Funny, Nancy... now that I am thinking back to some of the dialouge, I can image that now. Boris Badenov.

Although Viggo looks a lot better.

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chillywilly

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:53 am

Joined: 20 May 2004 Posts: 8251 Location: Salt Lake City

Marj wrote:

... I kept getting thrown by the film going back and forth between subtitles and English. Especially when a Russian was talking to a Russian.

I turned on the english subtitles, which helped with some of the dialouge, like Kirill's father.

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Ghulam

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:28 am

Joined: 20 May 2004 Posts: 4742 Location: Upstate NY

Ken Loach's The Wind that Shakes the Barley, the winner of the Palm d'Or at Cannes in 2006, is set in 1920 in Cork, Ireland, and is about the banding together of some Irish young men to fight against the atrocities of the British Army, and after a treaty is signed, the violent struggle between those Irish who accepted the treaty and those who did not. Some scenes are quite brutal, but the movie seems to be quite realistic in portraying the realities and the sentiments of that period. A good movie.

billyweeds

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:17 am

Joined: 20 May 2004 Posts: 20618 Location: New York City

Marj wrote:

And Vincent Cassel as the son was also wonderful. I've seen EP twice and it really holds up.

Which, sadly, North by Northwest doesn't quite. It was on my top 50 list, but after reviewing it last night I'm afraid I'll have to remove it. It's really too hard to believe even for a movie that is intentionally over the top. But Cary Grant is still great and some of the set pieces are superb.

Marj

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:07 pm

Joined: 21 May 2004 Posts: 10497 Location: Manhattan

Vincent Cassel was great. I'm a fan. And I've seen him in other films in which I thought he actually did a better job. But when I was listing all of the actors I liked in Eastern Promises I realized that if I didn't stop, I might as well just add the entire cast list.

At he beginning of the film I liked Cassel better than Mortensen. And this may sound crazy but every time Mortensen came on to the screen I kept picturing a young De Niro around the time he did Godfather II in the role. Then the actors switched for me. Cassel had one very bad scene and Mortensen broke out of the De Niro persona and became very real. So I can understand the lack of nominations for them. But I do think Armin Mueller-Stahl is deserving and at his age is more than due.

As to North by Northwest, I kind of agree. But I saw To Catch a Thief recently and it barely held my attention.

Befade

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:22 pm

Joined: 20 May 2004 Posts: 3784 Location: AZ

Cary Grant will always hold my attention. He had 2 homes in Palm Springs. In between them were 4 guest houses and a pool. Two guest houses have been converted into a restaurant. It was a highlight of my trip to have dinner there. I could sense Cary walking on the wide pine floorboards.......

Nancy

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:23 pm

Joined: 20 May 2004 Posts: 4607 Location: Norman, OK

Marj wrote:

Vincent Cassel was great. I'm a fan. And I've seen him in other films in which I thought he actually did a better job.

I like Cassel too. I thought he was good in Brotherhood of the Wolf, which was the first time I really noticed him. Have been watching for him ever since.

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tirebiter

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:04 pm

Joined: 20 May 2004 Posts: 4011 Location: not far away

Billy: Aw c'mon, NbyNW is Hitchcock's BEST FILM! It's funny, it's thrilling, it's sexy, it's wonderful-- it's ur-hitchcock, it's echt-Hitchcock... it's his BEST FILM!!

mo_flixx

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:10 pm

Joined: 30 May 2004 Posts: 12533

Nancy wrote:

Marj wrote:

Vincent Cassel was great. I'm a fan. And I've seen him in other films in which I thought he actually did a better job.

I like Cassel too. I thought he was good in Brotherhood of the Wolf, which was the first time I really noticed him. Have been watching for him ever since.

DITTO. He is also great in 2001's "Read My Lips."

billyweeds

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:14 pm

Joined: 20 May 2004 Posts: 20618 Location: New York City

tirebiter wrote:

Billy: Aw c'mon, NbyNW is Hitchcock's BEST FILM! It's funny, it's thrilling, it's sexy, it's wonderful-- it's ur-hitchcock, it's echt-Hitchcock... it's his BEST FILM!!

It was always fifth on my list, after Rear Window, Psycho, Strangers on a Train, and Vertigo. And it probably still is fifth, but a lot under the other four, and maybe under The Lady Vanishes.

chillywilly

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:44 pm

Joined: 20 May 2004 Posts: 8251 Location: Salt Lake City

tirebiter wrote:

Billy: Aw c'mon, NbyNW is Hitchcock's BEST FILM! It's funny, it's thrilling, it's sexy, it's wonderful-- it's ur-hitchcock, it's echt-Hitchcock... it's his BEST FILM!!

Rear Window was the best, IMO. NbNW was good, but there was something about the plot execution in RW that made pure brilliance.

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billyweeds

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:27 pm

Joined: 20 May 2004 Posts: 20618 Location: New York City

chillywilly wrote:

tirebiter wrote:

Billy: Aw c'mon, NbyNW is Hitchcock's BEST FILM! It's funny, it's thrilling, it's sexy, it's wonderful-- it's ur-hitchcock, it's echt-Hitchcock... it's his BEST FILM!!

Rear Window was the best, IMO. NbNW was good, but there was something about the plot execution in RW that made pure brilliance.

You may or may not remember that Rear Window is my favorite movie, period. And it holds up beautifully, viewing after viewing after viewing.

Jynx

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:56 pm

Joined: 21 May 2004 Posts: 750 Location: Nowheresville

RW was one of the few films I thought Stewart was actually a man's man in. He was hot in that, not a soppy knobhead.

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