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Ghulam
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 12:58 am Reply with quote
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Sean Penn's "Into the Wild" has some interesting and even original moments, but it seems all so pointless. But to each his own. Hal Holbrook and Catherine Keener are good.[/b]
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billyweeds
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 6:55 am Reply with quote
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Ghulam wrote:
Sean Penn's "Into the Wild" has some interesting and even original moments, but it seems all so pointless. But to each his own. Hal Holbrook and Catherine Keener are good.[/b]


Keener was good. Holbrook was great.
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Trish
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:14 am Reply with quote
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and I so hope he gets a oscar nomination - I read some ehere that Javiar Bardem noted he thought Holbrook was fantastic in the film
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Nancy
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Syd wrote:
That's the one. Apparently Amazon doesn't know about it.


That doesn't surprise me.

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lady wakasa
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:46 am Reply with quote
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Nancy wrote:
Syd wrote:
That's the one. Apparently Amazon doesn't know about it.


That doesn't surprise me.


There are many things that Amazon misses the boat on.

...Okay, not that many, but some.

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Trish
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:56 am Reply with quote
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inlareviewer wrote:
Relayed Deaction Dept.:

Marilyn wrote:


Bravo, Rod, faboo review. Thanks for linking it, Marilyn.

Amended because it hit me that if people haven't read the novel or seen the film, the notice does contain spoilers.


I agree, It's a fantastic review and makes me appreciate the film more. I'll definitely check it out again (although most likely on DVD). I really loved his comment:

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but it’s hard to deny McEwan’s ultimate points: that fiction often overtakes truth, and for good reason, the truth being unbearable sometimes, and fiction, a godlike art, is a tool, and sometimes the only tool, to make sense of life
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inlareviewer
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:53 pm Reply with quote
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Edited out previous tragic news, didn't seem to belong here.

What does belong perhaps is that neither 4 Months nor Persepolis , nor Edge of Heaven nor The Orphanage, made the cut for Foreign Language film:

http://goldderby.latimes.com/awards_goldderby/2008/01/oscars-unveil-9.html

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"The Counterfeiters" (Austria), "The Year My Parents Went on Vacation" (Brazil), "Days of Darkness" (Canada), "Beaufort" (Israel), "The Unknown" (Italy), "Mongol" (Kazakhstan), "Katyn" (Poland), "12" (Russia) and "The Trap" (Serbia)

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Marc
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:38 am Reply with quote
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Rob Harvilla of the Village Voice on Juno:

If you've not yet had the pleasure of Juno, the atrociously fey teen-pregnancy comedy currently barnstorming multiplexes and whooping up Oscar talk, by all means, have at it. It is sweet and heartwarming and winsome in its utter preposterousness. Just the fakest dialogue imaginable. Pop-culture-savvy sarcasm as suburban religion. Teenagers who talk like thirtysomething screenwriters. "Cool" parents who talk like teenage screenwriters. A 16-year-old heroine who actually says things like "Just looking to secure a hasty abortion!" and "Just dealing with things way outside my maturity level!" and (grits teeth) "Swear to blog!" Just appallingly cute cute cute CUTE CUTE.
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Syd
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:50 am Reply with quote
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inlareviewer wrote:
Edited out previous tragic news, didn't seem to belong here.

What does belong perhaps is that neither 4 Months nor Persepolis , nor Edge of Heaven nor The Orphanage, made the cut for Foreign Language film:

http://goldderby.latimes.com/awards_goldderby/2008/01/oscars-unveil-9.html

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"The Counterfeiters" (Austria), "The Year My Parents Went on Vacation" (Brazil), "Days of Darkness" (Canada), "Beaufort" (Israel), "The Unknown" (Italy), "Mongol" (Kazakhstan), "Katyn" (Poland), "12" (Russia) and "The Trap" (Serbia)


I'm thinking Persepolis will be up for Animated Film.

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Ghulam
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:55 am Reply with quote
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Marc wrote:
Rob Harvilla of the Village Voice on Juno:

If you've not yet had the pleasure of Juno, the atrociously fey teen-pregnancy comedy currently barnstorming multiplexes and whooping up Oscar talk, by all means, have at it. It is sweet and heartwarming and winsome in its utter preposterousness. Just the fakest dialogue imaginable. Pop-culture-savvy sarcasm as suburban religion. Teenagers who talk like thirtysomething screenwriters. "Cool" parents who talk like teenage screenwriters. A 16-year-old heroine who actually says things like "Just looking to secure a hasty abortion!" and "Just dealing with things way outside my maturity level!" and (grits teeth) "Swear to blog!" Just appallingly cute cute cute CUTE CUTE.


My take, exactly.
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Rod
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:17 am Reply with quote
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Marc wrote:
Rob Harvilla of the Village Voice on Juno:

If you've not yet had the pleasure of Juno, the atrociously fey teen-pregnancy comedy currently barnstorming multiplexes and whooping up Oscar talk, by all means, have at it. It is sweet and heartwarming and winsome in its utter preposterousness. Just the fakest dialogue imaginable. Pop-culture-savvy sarcasm as suburban religion. Teenagers who talk like thirtysomething screenwriters. "Cool" parents who talk like teenage screenwriters. A 16-year-old heroine who actually says things like "Just looking to secure a hasty abortion!" and "Just dealing with things way outside my maturity level!" and (grits teeth) "Swear to blog!" Just appallingly cute cute cute CUTE CUTE.


I haven't seen the film but I saw the trailer and thought, "They're not serious, are they? Do they really think that's how real people talk?" I saw that piece yesterday and was glad to have the impression confirmed.

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gromit
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 5:47 am Reply with quote
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inlareviewer wrote:
Edited out previous tragic news, didn't seem to belong here.

What does belong perhaps is that neither 4 Months nor Persepolis , nor Edge of Heaven nor The Orphanage, made the cut for Foreign Language film:

http://goldderby.latimes.com/awards_goldderby/2008/01/oscars-unveil-9.html

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"The Counterfeiters" (Austria), "The Year My Parents Went on Vacation" (Brazil), "Days of Darkness" (Canada), "Beaufort" (Israel), "The Unknown" (Italy), "Mongol" (Kazakhstan), "Katyn" (Poland), "12" (Russia) and "The Trap" (Serbia)


Surprised 4, 3, 2 didn't make the list.
And now Canada is posing as a foreign country. I've seen The Counterfeiters dvd around, but was a bit disappointed it had nothing to do with Gide. I'm not big on WWII films, but might have to give it a go now. The others, except for Mongol, I haven't heard of. And really not much interest in seeing Mongol.

I did flip through Persepolis, but the "English" subtitles were too mangled to actually watch. I actually did better with the French subs on a different copy in a store.

12 sounds like a Russian 12 Angry Men.
Sounds worth digging up.

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billyweeds
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:06 am Reply with quote
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Marc wrote:
Rob Harvilla of the Village Voice on Juno:

If you've not yet had the pleasure of Juno, the atrociously fey teen-pregnancy comedy currently barnstorming multiplexes and whooping up Oscar talk, by all means, have at it. It is sweet and heartwarming and winsome in its utter preposterousness. Just the fakest dialogue imaginable. Pop-culture-savvy sarcasm as suburban religion. Teenagers who talk like thirtysomething screenwriters. "Cool" parents who talk like teenage screenwriters. A 16-year-old heroine who actually says things like "Just looking to secure a hasty abortion!" and "Just dealing with things way outside my maturity level!" and (grits teeth) "Swear to blog!" Just appallingly cute cute cute CUTE CUTE.


Marc--Don't I remember you at one point decrying the practice of quoting critics to support one's own opinion? Go for it. I'm just saying...
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billyweeds
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:09 am Reply with quote
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Marc--And speaking of quoting critics, did you read ('cause you didn't comment on) my quote of Ebert's (to me) totally convincing explanation of the reason Juno and her parents all talk "hip"? (Which, btw, is the way my daughter and I talk to each other and I feel just the slightest bit personally attacked when I see people criticizing Juno and her family.)
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tirebiter
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:12 am Reply with quote
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I certainly speak to my kids in their "cool and with-it" argot-- it makes them feel special. Effortlessly wielding hep terms like "swell" and "nifty," I cross that generational line of separation and seem "neat-o." They really appreciate it-- they call me a "loser," which I understand means I'm the "baddest" "dude" who's "totally rad" and "awesome" to boot.
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