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Ghulam |
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 1:08 pm |
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ehle64 wrote: I'd rather spend a night in jail then have to sit through all 2 hours of Atonement again. Definitely 2007's most pretentious, over-praised film.
My view, exactly. |
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inlareviewer |
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 1:10 pm |
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Beyond the Valley of Relayed Deaction:
gromit wrote: Edited so that inla has some competition for Best 3rd Eye Editing. (in vintage Mr. Burns manner)
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mo_flixx |
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 2:08 pm |
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inlareviewer wrote: ehle64 wrote: I'd rather spend a night in jail then have to sit through all 2 hours of Atonement again. Definitely 2007's most pretentious, over-praised film. Haven't yet seen Atonement. Admired the novel more than loved it. I'd certainly spend a night in jail with McAvoy.
Word.
People of either sex would be happy to spend a night in jail with Keira and/or McAvoy! |
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Ghulam |
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 2:11 pm |
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Just Keira for me, thank you. |
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marantzo |
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 2:59 pm |
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I only prefer mature women who are built, so no thank you Keira, but I appreciate the offer. |
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jeremy |
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 3:04 pm |
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I enjoyed Atonement. For me, the first 45 minutes, was easily the opening of a film this year. Unfortunately, it lost its way a little bit in the second half, though the stunning coda did much to gloss over that.
I think many people fail to see past its beautifully polished surfaces. It is a thoughtful, attempt to adapt a thoughful novel. I admire its ambition, its intelligence, and the fact that in a gloriously out-of-fashion way it is not afraid to be about something, to show its feelings; it is post-post modern...or something like that. It is a proper film about proper things.
I would rebutt the charge of pretention. It is not pretending to be something it's not (though at times it is actually just that) it is the real thing...except when its not. I like its lack of cynicism.
Talking of which, perhaps someone can tell me what the critics darling NCfOM is about. I suspect it isn't actualy about anything. |
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inlareviewer |
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 3:22 pm |
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The producers of Atonement and Sweeney should prepare to be content with Gilded Globules; they're missing from the Producers Guild of America nominees:
http://theenvelope.latimes.com/env-en-pga15jan15,0,429426.story
Given reactions here and elsewhere, my suspicion is if there's a disparity between PGA and AMPAS, Atonement will trump Diving Bell. Though there's a measure of doubt over Blood's last half hour and Michael's low grosses, Sweeney's gore most likely won't overcome them, and Juno is the contest's Feel-Good Huge Grosser -- it's a Lock along with No Country for Old Men. Coming on the heels of Last Year in Hellienbad, 2008 has already given me a semi-permanent headache (though not quite as migraine-ish as the impending Michigan primary ballot debacle threatens to do, but I digress)
Jeremy, you address the tacit undercurrent accompanying NCfOM all season that has crept up through its near-sweep of Criticalities and Sure Thing AMPAS status: the enigmatic nature of the ending. My feeling about its meaning is OBSCURE DEMI-SPOILER IN WHITE Everybody Dies though that could just be my current channeling of Elaine Stritch. |
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inlareviewer |
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 3:38 pm |
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mo_flixx wrote:
Word.
People of either sex would be happy to spend a night in jail with Keira and/or McAvoy! Only if I can wear that dress. Green has always been very kind to me. |
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jeremy |
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 3:55 pm |
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Atonement looks like being the first GG winner that will have failed to even get nominated for the best pic Oscar. |
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mo_flixx |
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:03 pm |
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marantzo wrote: I only prefer mature women who are built, so no thank you Keira, but I appreciate the offer.
Hmmmm. I guess that leaves out Vanessa Redgrave, too. |
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lady wakasa |
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:04 pm |
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marantzo |
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:22 pm |
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mo_flixx wrote: marantzo wrote: I only prefer mature women who are built, so no thank you Keira, but I appreciate the offer.
Hmmmm. I guess that leaves out Vanessa Redgrave, too.
I wouldn't fuck her if she were 20 years younger and was gorgeous with a knockout build. I have an aversion to commie anti-Semiltes. |
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inlareviewer |
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:44 pm |
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jeremy wrote: Atonement looks like being the first GG winner that will have failed to even get nominated for the best pic Oscar. Actually, what may well transpire from last night's Gilded Globules happened in 1955, when GG winners East of Eden and Guys and Dolls failed to place in the Racso slate.
lady wakasa wrote: inla - are you hearing anything about Persepolis?
:sniff: lady wakasa, those who see it are liking it very much, me included. Genuinely subversive and yet accessible, a remarkable translation of the graphic novels' distinctive style into old-school anime. And then, there's the Mastroianni/Deneuve connection, and La Divine Darrieux. It sent me. However, as the official French entry for Foreign Language film, it's thrown the animated feature contest for a loop. There was talk when the Bald Gold Naked Man With Sword campaign season began that it could join Ratatouille and The Simpsons Movie in the third slot. It's something of a long shot. Not impossible, there's quality and a measure of Buzz there, but it's a late-in-year release, and it's even trickier when films straddle categories.
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jeremy |
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:22 pm |
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The critical and voting consensus is a strange beast. Part tradition and part zeigeist, it's fuelled by self-fulfilling buzz and guided by popular taste. Though composed of individuals, this inchoate mass, nonethess has a definite herd or shoal mentality. It seems to have set itself against post-Iraq breast beating or the tricksy outside world, and instead retreated into identity affirming Americana; a form of sentimentality that is barely diguised by its violent, faux-transgressive or gothic dressing. Foreigners beware.
Then again, everyone could just be voting for the films they think are the best. |
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marantzo |
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:24 pm |
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Is Surfs Up a 2007 release? |
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