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| marantzo |
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| I think the title The Rape of Europa is just a play on the phrase, not a reference to any paintings. Wasn't the rape of Europa some kind of Greek or Roman story from their politheist religion? |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:13 am |
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| The American public is sick about hearing about Iraq and all it's issues. |
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| bart |
| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:24 am |
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Betsy --
"The Road was not a book I savored. There were too many "I know, sons.""
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| carrobin |
| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:39 am |
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| I think the lack of success among the "Iraq war" films has to do more with their not being compelling films than ideology. Admittedly, I haven't seen any of them, but I agree that "The Valley of Elah" is a terrible title and "Rendition" didn't seem very appealing, and while "Lions for Lambs" has super star power, the reviews are kicking it to the curb. It's like the studio mantras that "sci-fi flicks" or "westerns" are dead, until George Lucas or Clint Eastwood comes along. The war film genre needs its own Lucas or an Eastwood. (Or maybe a new style, like the graphic-novel semi-animation that made "300 Spartans" such a hit.) |
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| mo_flixx |
| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:07 am |
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marantzo wrote: I think the title The Rape of Europa is just a play on the phrase, not a reference to any paintings. Wasn't the rape of Europa some kind of Greek or Roman story from their politheist religion?
Gary, it is a famous mythical subject and has been the subject of many sculptures and paintings.
I don't know that the book's title DOES refer to any specific work of art...but when I do read the book, I will be looking for such an allusion. |
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| chillywilly |
| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:14 am |
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Syd wrote: Michael Clayton hasn't run away with the box office, but it has legs. It's #11 six weeks after release. It's still below $40 million, but I expect it to get a bunch of Oscar nominations and should end up around $100,000,000. Not bad considering it relies on brains for its drama rather than car chases. If you prefer car chases, The Bourne Ultimatum has topped $200,000,000. (Fortunately it's also a good film.)
Much agreed, Syd. I hope MC does well during it's first and also-ran runs on the big screen. I'm sure it will be on DVD sometime before the Oscars.
All of the Bourne movies have been great, each one almost standing on their own without needing the others, but at the same time, all of them tying together so well. |
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| chillywilly |
| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:15 am |
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marantzo wrote: The American public is sick about hearing about Iraq and all it's issues.
And the last thing they want to see is another movie based on the war, or one that deals with war issues. |
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| mo_flixx |
| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:22 am |
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| tirebiter |
| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:38 am |
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I think chilly and marantz are right about the general antipathy to films about the Iraq conflict. Folks just want it to go away, and aren't inclined to wallow in its depressing sinfulness in a theatre. Small-minded? Maybe, but I sympathize.
Saw the trailer for "There Will Be Blood" over the weekend-- looks interesting, as it should, directed by PTA. Wanted to read the Upton Sinclair novel upon which it's based (Oil!), but it's not online with almost all of his other work. The library has a copy, tho-- it'll be fun to see what drew PTA to the project. |
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| jeremy |
| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 3:37 pm |
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Now if my review of Atonement has been interspersed of pictures of Ikea Knightley sopping wet in her chic 1930s chemise, I might hav got someone to read my review of Atonement or at least look at it. I guess as it's not opening in the US until the height of Oscar season in December, I'll have to wait a bit longer to get some feedback. |
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| tirebiter |
| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 3:43 pm |
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| Do you, maybe, have a photo that's, uh, cropped a little lower? I'm a kind of a student of... uh, costume design, yeah! Costume design in the movies! I'd like to see her, uh, costume in, uh, greater detail. |
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| jeremy |
| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 5:00 pm |
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| How things are perceived is a key element of the film, so in keeping with this theme, we get to see Ikea Knightley's graceful exit from the family fountain on two occassions firstly from the perspective of a gardner and then from the viewpoint of a 13yo girl. I think my take on the scene was more in keeping with that of a 13yo boy. |
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| Befade |
| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 7:28 pm |
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Quote: I further agree with you that this year is turning out a spectacular crop of films.
It truly is.......and as Mo said.....it's hard to keep up.....Now that I hear Bart liked American Gangster I'll have to see that. Margot at the Wedding for sure.....
Still my top favorites are Lust/Caution and Into the Wild. |
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| chillywilly |
| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 7:34 pm |
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jeremy wrote:
Now if my review of Atonement has been interspersed of pictures of Ikea Knightley sopping wet in her chic 1930s chemise, I might hav got someone to read my review of Atonement or at least look at it. I guess as it's not opening in the US until the height of Oscar season in December, I'll have to wait a bit longer to get some feedback.
That shot reminds me of a scene in Fast Times at Ridgemont High
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| jeremy |
| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 7:55 pm |
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