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| ehle64 |
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thx rod
sorry to digress, but, Hitch is on StarzHD and does Will Smith wear fake hair? I mean, his hairline is NOT natural.
p.s. eva mendez is hot(caliente) but not a very good actress from what i can tell. . . |
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| ehle64 |
| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 12:58 am |
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I like, totally forgot, to, like, tell you guys, that
I SAW Edie, CIAO Manhattan! screened over in Astoria.
SO FUCKING COOL
I went from some twisted version of 20/30s Shanghai Underground, to Edie's version of HELL.
It's also very odd considering that we know the Susan Superstar family. |
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| Trish |
| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 7:06 am |
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Rod wrote: Continuing my combination movie-glut/hiding out from the world, I was watching Foul Play last night, a very uneven Hitchcock wannabe crossed with a late '70s swingers comedy, featuring an absurdly cute lead performance from Goldie Hawn as the damsel in distress, a surprisingly suave one from Chevy Chase as her savior policeman, and a worth-every-cent-they-paid support turn from Dudley Moore. A lot of limp gags balanced by some extremely funny scenes, most especially a kung-fu fight between Burgess Meredith and Rachel Roberts, but all weighed down by terribly clumsy direction. .
I like to watch the very beginning of that film whenever its on because I like 1. the first cute interaction between Chase and Hawn at the party and mainly 2. I like Hawn's ride along the California coast with Manilow's "Ready To Take A Chance Again " playing - sue me, I like the song |
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| Trish |
| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 7:13 am |
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Interesting List (many of which I've never seen) - no mention of Platoon is curious, You didn't like it? |
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| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 7:40 am |
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| Platoon's good but I can't put in the same league as these films. It's very gritty and has the reek of lived experience, but like all Oliver Stone's work the drama is fairly trite, and the narrative clumsy before falling in a heap - I can barely remember anything that happens in it after Willem Dafoe dies. It doesn't even have that visually rhapsodic quality that makes some of Stone's later films hypnotic. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 8:03 am |
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Platoon sucked, as did Born on the Fourth of July, U-Turn, Nixon, Wall Street, and almost every other Oliver Stone movie except JFK, Salvador, and Any Given Sunday, which were all brilliant. Can you say uneven?
Yes, for the record, I loathed--loathed--Natural Born Killers. Will Tim resurface to shoot me down? |
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| tirebiter |
| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 9:02 am |
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| I concur 100% with you, billy, except in the cases of Platoon, JFK, and Any Given Sunday. Otherwise we're in complete agreement. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 9:04 am |
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tirebiter wrote: I concur 100% with you, billy, except in the cases of Platoon, JFK, and Any Given Sunday. Otherwise we're in complete agreement.
Fair enough, except I really think JFK is that rare film that deserves to be called "great." |
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| tirebiter |
| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 9:22 am |
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| Re. JFK, I appreciated all the stylistic pyrotechnics and some good performances, but I'd just read Gerald Posner's brilliant book "Case Closed," and I knew that 5/6ths of everything Stone (via Jim Garrison)was saying was BS. That took a toll. |
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| Trish |
| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 9:24 am |
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billyweeds wrote: Platoon sucked, as did Born on the Fourth of July, U-Turn, Nixon, Wall Street, and almost every other Oliver Stone movie except JFK, Salvador, and Any Given Sunday, which were all brilliant. Can you say uneven?
Yes, for the record, I loathed--loathed--Natural Born Killers. Will Tim resurface to shoot me down?
what was sucky about Born on the 4th of July? |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 9:50 am |
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| Nixon is one of the very few Stone movies that I liked. |
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| Rod |
| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:16 am |
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| JFK...I always have trouble seperating my reaction to it from its patently dishonest pose as a docu-drama, as well as the insufferable results it had in propigating the worst kinds of yahoo conspiracy theories...and I don't think I should try, because the weakness of the approach is built into the film; in trying so hard to convince us its baloney is real, the narrative, once again, dissolves totally in the overlong and stagy courtroom summary, and wounds beyond repair what had been up to then a well-textured paranoia epic. BUT, the acting's dynamic all the way through, by far Kevin Costner's best lead performance, and most notably, Stone's ability as an orchestrator of images is undeniable - it and The Doors are truly amazing films to watch, and so to is Talk Radio, in a more subtle way, for the care he takes with staging, lighting, editing. That his works usually end up so dramatically empty peanut shells is startling. |
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| shannon |
| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:27 am |
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| I liked Flags of Our Fathers quite a bit, despite it being a huge let-down after Eastwood's last few triumphs. One of the few Hollywood WWII movies you'll ever see that dares to be cynical. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:37 am |
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Trish wrote: billyweeds wrote: Platoon sucked, as did Born on the Fourth of July, U-Turn, Nixon, Wall Street, and almost every other Oliver Stone movie except JFK, Salvador, and Any Given Sunday, which were all brilliant. Can you say uneven?
Yes, for the record, I loathed--loathed--Natural Born Killers. Will Tim resurface to shoot me down?
what was sucky about Born on the 4th of July?
Two words: Tom Cruise. A truly egregious piece of miscasting. Too handsome, too shallow, too plastic, too everything but what the real Ron Kovic was--edgy and annoying and truly heroic.
P.S. Read the book. It's amazing. |
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| Trish |
| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 11:13 am |
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shannon wrote: I liked Flags of Our Fathers quite a bit, despite it being a huge let-down after Eastwood's last few triumphs. One of the few Hollywood WWII movies you'll ever see that dares to be cynical.
but the story was - who cares? I mean I guess it points out a continuing reality of political spinning etc - but there wasn't one memorable performance (including the must hyped Adam Beach performance). Can I add - that Eastwood's low hum of a soundtrack didn't help matter |
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