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| Ghulam |
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| Crowther was also off the mark on Bonnie and Clyde. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 8:40 pm |
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| The review(s) (he took more than one shot at it) that killed his career. |
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| inlareviewer |
| Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 9:22 pm |
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| After yet another cancellation from the person with whom I have promised to see the Scorsese!, harrumph, last night I dug out Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind and watched it for the seventy-zillionth time, only with the French dub. Tres jolie, tres formidable, tres tres tres. |
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| lady wakasa |
| Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:13 pm |
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marantzo wrote: Wild Strawberries was wonderful, and Crowther was a clueless critic.
I totally agree. Crowther missed the boat on quite a bit; I'm a little biased, but he was steering the ship during the transition to talkies and just missed everything that was going on.
One of the most important periods in the history of film, and he fumbled it. |
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| mo_flixx |
| Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 11:00 pm |
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Re: Crowther.
Those were the Neanderthal days of film criticism. |
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| lady wakasa |
| Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 11:02 pm |
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| Although my understanding is that Carl Sandburg had no problems during the 20s (and I should really read his book to verify that...). |
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| mo_flixx |
| Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 11:07 pm |
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lady wakasa wrote: Although my understanding is that Carl Sandburg had no problems during the 20s (and I should really read his book to verify that...).
Huh?? Can you explain this further?? |
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| lady wakasa |
| Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 11:34 pm |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 11:35 pm |
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Bosley Crowther was clueless almost 100 percent of the time, but I don't think he was around when silents became talkies. He was later. But clueless.
And if Pauline Kael didn't adore Wild Strawberries (IMO Bergman's best by a mile) then she was temporarily clueless as well. |
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| lady wakasa |
| Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 12:03 am |
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My mistake - that should be Mordaunt Hall. I hate this aging thing (and I'm serious about that)...
The Times doesn't always do well with its reviewers, and Manohla seems determined to uphold the tradition. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 12:24 am |
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lady wakasa wrote: My mistake - that should be Mordaunt Hall. I hate this aging thing (and I'm serious about that)...
The Times doesn't always do well with its reviewers, and Manohla seems determined to uphold the tradition.
Just to get it straight, Carl Sandburg did write movie reviews, right? And you were mixing up Bosley Crowther and Mordaunt Hall, right? |
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| mo_flixx |
| Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 12:28 am |
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I've never heard of Mordaunt Hall.
Perhaps someone can explain.
I was never thrilled with either Bosley or Pauline. |
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| mo_flixx |
| Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 12:32 am |
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lady wakasa wrote: Carl Sandburg wrote movie reviews during the Twenties; they're compiled into a book (more details at http://www.lakeclaremont.com/Sandburg/excerpts.html). Marilyn recommended this once, and it's something I've always had on the list but haven't gotten to yet.
Thanks for this link. Glad to see that Sandburg was a von Sternberg fan. |
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| mo_flixx |
| Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 12:38 am |
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I have been watching "La Commune" by Peter Watkins from Marc's MONDO. I'm about 1/2-way thru disc 1. This seems to me to owe an awful lot to the CBS TV series "You Are There" produced during the '50's and written by many of the blacklisted writers of the time.
The imdb.com doesn't give much info.
Wondering if anyone can shed more light on this. "You Are There" was a great show from the Golden Age of Television. |
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| lady wakasa |
| Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 12:53 am |
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billyweeds wrote: lady wakasa wrote: My mistake - that should be Mordaunt Hall. I hate this aging thing (and I'm serious about that)...
The Times doesn't always do well with its reviewers, and Manohla seems determined to uphold the tradition.
Just to get it straight, Carl Sandburg did write movie reviews, right? And you were mixing up Bosley Crowther and Mordaunt Hall, right?
Correct. |
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