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yambu
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:12 am Reply with quote
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Amen.
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Joe Vitus
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I thought Teri Garr was doing a Diane Keaton impersonation in Tootsie. I ususally like her performances, but not that one.

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billyweeds
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:51 am Reply with quote
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I thought Tootsie was the high point of Garr's career, with the possible exception of Young Frankenstein.
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chillywilly
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:55 am Reply with quote
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Speaking of Teri Garr, she's 58 today.

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ehle64
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 1:54 am Reply with quote
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This Friday Night's Midnight Snack (hehehe) provided by the Sundance Channel:



http://www.sundancechannel.com/midnightsnack/?sst&attr=FRI_text

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mo_flixx
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:12 am Reply with quote
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Marj wrote:
It really is. And IMO, Lange's best acting. She has to go to Hell and back and does so with out a seam. Watch her in the interview the scene with Mama. That is true hatred. As real as anything I've ever seen anywhere, anytime.


Laslo Kovac's did a Q & A about FRANCES. His remarks were enlightening. For example, Lange really wanted to shoot the film in chronological order because of its emotional intensity. This turned out not to be possible.

Also, Kovacs told how he shot the final scene which took all the light out of Lange's eyes to reflect the lobotomy and detachment.

See the imdb.com for more details. The imdb.com says the lobotomy never took place. One man in the audience told about seeing Frances' '50's TV show in Indianapolis, IN. According to him, she was pretty much out of it at that time. Kovacs said that while they were able to view the Ralph Edwards footage (THIS IS YOUR LIFE), the Indianapolis TV show's footage was basically non-existent.

BTW, I was puzzled by the quasi-Southern accents of Lange and her mother - seeing as the film was set in Washington state. Lange herself comes from MN. Any ideas?
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Joe Vitus
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 3:45 am Reply with quote
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billyweeds wrote:
I thought Tootsie was the high point of Garr's career, with the possible exception of Young Frankenstein.


Young Frankenstein would be on my list, too. So would First Born, a not very good movie, but one where Garr plays a coke addict, and her nervous mannerisms are most appropriate (I'm not being sarcastic). And, probably, After Hours.

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billyweeds
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:51 am Reply with quote
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Joe Vitus wrote:
billyweeds wrote:
I thought Tootsie was the high point of Garr's career, with the possible exception of Young Frankenstein.


Young Frankenstein would be on my list, too. So would First Born, a not very good movie, but one where Garr plays a coke addict, and her nervous mannerisms are most appropriate (I'm not being sarcastic). And, probably, After Hours.


I liked her in Firstborn, too, and Peter Weller. It's a very disturbing movie--though, as you say, not a particularly good one. Don't remember her in After Hours, one of those cultish flicks I've never been able to hook fully into. When people say--and many do--that it's one of their favorite Marty movies, I just stare blankly.
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billyweeds
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 7:11 am Reply with quote
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Mikey and Nicky is one of those movies that is almost destined to develop a cult following. With Peter Falk and John Cassavetes directed by Elaine May, it has intellectual cachet from the jump. Only problem is it's a terrible movie. The two actors are embarrassingly amateurish in their feeble attempts to improvise dialogue, and the director just gives them carte blanche.

It reminds me of another of my least favorite movies, Scarecrow, in which star-gazing director Jerry Schatzberg just let his two superstar actors, Hackman and Pacino, give self-indulgent actorish performances.
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Joe Vitus
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 7:59 am Reply with quote
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Weller was great. He's the villain, but I liked him better than the teen hero.

I'm not crazy about After Hours myself, but Garr's character is nicely disturbing. She had a big beehive hairdo and kept mousetraps around her bed, if that helps you remember.

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Trish
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 9:30 am Reply with quote
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ehle64 wrote:
Frances was the film where I positively fell in love with Lange, I guess, like Shepard. One of my favorites and it is available on DVD. I also feel like she should have won her Oscar for that and not Tootsie, but am probably in the minority knowing how beloved Tootsie is to most people.


She's great in a little film called Men Don't Leave - (among many other great performances over the years) -
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marantzo
Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:37 am Reply with quote
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I thought Teri Garr was the one who should have gotten the Oscar for Tootsie.


That's what I thought too. I still remember when I first saw Lang's picture when she was in King Kong. Wow, "She's the waitress from the Lion's Head!" I was happy that she had got this big role (I never knew the waitress was actually an actress), but felt bad that she was in this film that the reviews said was just silly, because I figured that may be a disaster for her career. I was wrong of course.

Mikey and Nicky. I haven't seen this film, but when I was hacking in the 70's, I was at a red light on 5th Ave. and there were Falk and Cassavetes crossing in front of me, having this animated conversation, seemingly oblivious to the traffic. When the movie came out I figured that was what they were discussing.
Ghulam
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Ingmar Bergman's Fanny and Alexander (1982), a sprawling TV production has been pared down to 188 minutes for DVD. It is Bergman's most autobiographical film. The protagonist is a 10 year old kid, who with his younger sister goes through a series of traumas, first with the death of their father, and then their mother marrying a strict, sadistic bishop. Their life in the new home is harrowing with a step father whom we would all love to hate. The story is presented from the point of view of the children, their memories and fantasies. It is one of Bergman's best.
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ehle64
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:38 am Reply with quote
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It's been several years since I've seen Fanny & Alexander, however no other Bergman besides Nattvardsgästerna, Winter Light, has quite blown me away. Seared images. Whatever it is that brilliant directors as Bergman magically does. BTW, I've never seen one of his films that I didn't like. Some I don't love or need to see again, but some feel like they are imprinted on my soul.


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Joe Vitus
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:25 am Reply with quote
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A complete Fanny and Alexander is available on DVD.

http://www.amazon.com/Fanny-Alexander-Special-Five-Disc-Set/dp/B000305ZYS/sr=1-1/qid=1166001857/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-9992670-0598205?ie=UTF8&s=dvd

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