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gromit |
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 4:19 pm |
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Annie Hall.
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.
The Godfather.
The 70's might be the best decade for Best Picture films.
I don't like The Apartment and think Rebecca is a fairly boring Hitch.
I quite like American Beauty, but great film ... |
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whiskeypriest |
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 4:20 pm |
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All About Eve, No Country for Old Men, The Godfather (I, not II), Bridge on the River Kwai, Lawrence of... well, you'll disagree on that.
Forgot about Annie Hall. |
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billyweeds |
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 4:46 pm |
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Can't imagine how I forgot The Godfather. Part Two doesn't grab me all that much. Annie Hall is very good indeed, but "great" I reserve for Manhattan, which didn't win (and IIRC was not even nominated). Rebecca boring? Maybe you need to see it again. Meanwhile, The Apartment resides on my top-ten-of-all-time list--along with The Godfather (my #3 movie and how I forgot it I can't imagine. Oh, I already said that.) |
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whiskeypriest |
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 4:49 pm |
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The 70 some odd Oscar winners I have seen, worst to first:
The Greatest Show on Earth
Around the World in Eighty Days
Gigi
My Fair Lady
The English Patient
Dances with Wolves
You Can't Take It with You
Oliver!
A Beautiful Mind
Terms of Endearment
Out of Africa
Rain Man
Marty
The Last Emperor
Ordinary People
Tom Jones
Driving Miss Daisy
Mrs. Miniver
Million Dollar Baby
Gandhi
Kramer vs. Kramer
Braveheart
American Beauty
Going My Way
Gladiator
The Sting
From Here to Eternity
A Man for All Seasons
Titanic
The French Connection
Chariots of Fire
Hamlet
Midnight Cowboy
Rocky
Platoon
Forrest Gump
Slumdog Millionaire
Mutiny on the Bounty
All the King's Men
An American in Paris
The Departed
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
Ben-Hur
The Sound of Music
Chicago
How Green Was My Valley
The Silence of the Lambs
All Quiet on the Western Front
Amadeus
In the Heat of the Night
The King's Speech
West Side Story
The Lost Weekend
Patton
The Deer Hunter
The Godfather: Part II
Unforgiven
The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King
Shakespeare in Love
The Best Years of Our Lives
The Hurt Locker
On the Waterfront
Schindler's List
It Happened One Night
10. Gone with the Wind
9. Rebecca
8. The Bridge on the River Kwai
7. Lawrence of Arabia
6. No Country for Old Men
5. All About Eve
4. The Apartment
3. Casablanca
2. Annie Hall
1. The Godfather
I would argue for the top 11 or 12 as "Great" Films, and the bottom 7 or 8 as "Bad" movies. Most of them are pretty good, solid movies. Most of the 35 - 12 movies could be readjusted upwards or downwards within that group. Same for the ones from 65 to 40.
Odd, for me, that the two Best Picture winning movies my all time favorite actor, James Stewart, was in are two of the ones I cannot abide.
All About Eve is officially the best movie to not deserve the Oscar it won. My two favorite movies of all time, Sunset Blvd. and The Third Man, were both Oscar eligible for that year.
Crash would probably be in that bottom group, but I've never seen all of it, and, despite my belief that one need not drink the entire carton of milk if your first gulp tells you it is sour, I am not comfortable ranking it on what I have seen.
I have also seen Grand Hotel but retain no memory of it other than that I have seen it. |
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billyweeds |
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:28 pm |
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whiskey--Remarkably close to my assessments, with the exception of Gigi and Marty, which are both much better than you think, and LOTR which I hated (but that's my problem).
About Lawrence, I just have to live with the fact that I'm in the severe minority. I really can't stand it. |
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Joe Vitus |
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:40 pm |
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billyweeds wrote: Joe Vitus wrote: ...how utterly meaningless an Academy Award is, in terms of evaluating quality.
Truer words were never spoken. You can count the number of great films which have won the Best Picture Oscar on the fingers of two hands and have several digits left. There's It Happened One Night, The Best Years of Our Lives, Casablanca, The Apartment, Schindler's List, Gone With the Wind, Rebecca, and...help me out here.
And some ( coughJoeVitus cough) would take Rebecca and Schindler's List off the docket.
You need to take care of that cough.
Yeah, I'd probably remove those two, but compared to other movies that won the award, they're both masterpieces. |
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whiskeypriest |
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:43 pm |
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billyweeds wrote: whiskey--Remarkably close to my assessments, with the exception of Gigi and Marty, which are both much better than you think, and LOTR which I hated (but that's my problem).
About Lawrence, I just have to live with the fact that I'm in the severe minority. I really can't stand it. Open to seeing Marty again and reevaluating. Gigi makes my skin crawl. I've always found the SNL version of "Thank Heaven for Little Girls" only marginally less appalling than the actual song:
"Thank heaven for little girls,
For little girls wear tiny underpants,
And sometimes they pull their dresses over their heads,
And they go walking in a deserted lot without anyone else around.." |
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chillywilly |
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:48 pm |
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billyweeds wrote: whiskey--Remarkably close to my assessments, with the exception of Gigi and Marty, which are both much better than you think, and LOTR which I hated (but that's my problem).
I was going to mention Marty (since my mom named me after that movie).
Whiskey and yourself captured the majority of the movies that belong on the best picture list. So good to see No Country For Old Men on that list, which IMO, was the last best picture that I thought deserved the Oscar. |
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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:52 pm |
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I still have yet to see the following best pictures:
The King's Speech
A Beautiful Mind
Dance With Wolves
On Whiskey's list, I would move The Departed up the list many notches. |
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whiskeypriest |
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:58 pm |
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billyweeds wrote: About Lawrence, I just have to live with the fact that I'm in the severe minority. I really can't stand it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZymBti7700 |
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gromit |
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:30 pm |
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Last time I tried to re-watch Rebecca, I fell asleep. It's a completely lame-brained story. Also, it has to be one of the longest Hitchcock films -- unless it just feels that way.
But most Hitch films clock in around the 1'40" mark, while Rebecca drags on another 1/2 hour. I think only N-by-NW is as long, and that keeps up a pretty good pace.
Rebecca also loses Oscar points for being held back until 1940 so that it wouldn't have to compete with GWTW.
Probably my least favorite Hitchcock film. |
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marantzo |
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:13 pm |
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Whiskey, watch Ben Hur again. You'll put it much father up in your list. It's crap, aside from the chariot scene which was sort of stupid and copied straight from the original but kind of entertaining. When I watched the battles at sea I thought that it was shot in a pond. I read an article about the making of Ben Hur a couple of years ago and it really was shot in a big pool.
What has everyone got against A Beautiful Mind? I don't think it deserved a best picture Oscar but I found it very interesting. |
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marantzo |
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:19 pm |
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Chevalier himself would keep me from watching Gigi, but Chevalier singing Thank Heaven For Little Girls would keep me from seeing it even if someone offered me a grand. |
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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:41 pm |
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Chevalier was pretty good in the movies he did with Jeanette MacDonald. |
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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:41 pm |
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marantzo wrote: Whiskey, watch Ben Hur again. You'll put it much father up in your list. It's crap, aside from the chariot scene which was sort of stupid and copied straight from the original but kind of entertaining. When I watched the battles at sea I thought that it was shot in a pond. I read an article about the making of Ben Hur a couple of years ago and it really was shot in a big pool.
I watched it just recently. It is appropriately placed. I realize Biblical epics are not a modern taste, but as far as they go, it is a great achievement. Besides, I enjoy the (alleged) subtextual joke on Charlton Heston. |
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