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| Trish |
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billyweeds wrote: yambu wrote: No. I mean no, it's not lame. We didn't do the list to be different. For me, there are some interesting surprises further down. I just think it's a great list.
I would like to see us put it to use, by getting it out there and attracting new members. And thank you, Gromit.
I agree it's a great list. It's wonderful that Mulholland Dr. is in our top ten, that The Grifters is on the list, and Boogie Nights, as well as the obvious and must-have selections such as Singin' in the Rain and Casablanca.
You can thank me for The Grifters - It was my #1 |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 8:27 am |
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Trish wrote: billyweeds wrote: yambu wrote: No. I mean no, it's not lame. We didn't do the list to be different. For me, there are some interesting surprises further down. I just think it's a great list.
I would like to see us put it to use, by getting it out there and attracting new members. And thank you, Gromit.
I agree it's a great list. It's wonderful that Mulholland Dr. is in our top ten, that The Grifters is on the list, and Boogie Nights, as well as the obvious and must-have selections such as Singin' in the Rain and Casablanca.
You can thank me for The Grifters - It was my #1
I knew that, and though I didn't include The Grifters on my top 50, I love it a lot, own it, and was happy to see it on our master list.
I'm mildly sorry to see Vertigo (which was on my top 50, so I obviously love it) become our favorite Hitchcock, above my #1 Rear Window. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 8:46 am |
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| tirebiter |
| Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 8:50 am |
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One of the reasons "The Grifters" is so wonderful is the nasty, spare screenplay by Donald E. Westlake. If you liked the film, try out one of Westlakes non-humorous novels: the easiest to find is "The Ax," and it's one of his best. Your local library will have a copy.
Now back to your originally scheduled programming. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 9:17 am |
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tirebiter wrote: One of the reasons "The Grifters" is so wonderful is the nasty, spare screenplay by Donald E. Westlake. If you liked the film, try out one of Westlakes non-humorous novels: the easiest to find is "The Ax," and it's one of his best. Your local library will have a copy.
Now back to your originally scheduled programming.
The Ax is terrific. Don't confuse it with Westlake's followup The Hook, which is not nearly as good. |
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| yambu |
| Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 9:27 am |
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Trish wrote: [....I'd be curious to know what films were chosen the most (regardless of rank) - this might point to a film's true popularity |
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| tirebiter |
| Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:33 am |
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| (Billy: Agreed about "The Hook"-- good but not great Westlake.) |
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| gromit |
| Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:37 am |
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yambu wrote: Trish wrote: [....I'd be curious to know what films were chosen the most (regardless of rank) - this might point to a film's true popularity Right. And I'll confess that I didn't give a lot of thought to my list's order, when I got into the middle bulge, and before the bottom. I bet I'm not the only one.
I did post a list of most voted for films at one point.
I think that list was based on 13 lists. I know Earl and possibly Tire contributed a list after I tabulated that.
I might do it again, if it looks easy to do from the assorted raw lists which I have.
The only one who really expressed an interest and didn't get a list in is Marc, ironically because he's too busy with his film-related businesses.
I had expressed the opinion that the order in a list wasn't so important, that a difference between a #30 and 39 pick wouldn't amount to much. But if you look at the bunch-up in the middle of the overall list, with myriad ties, you'll notice that the difference between for example Chinatown at #43 and the 54th slot is only a matter of 7 votes. Or more extreme, the difference between Breathless at #77 and Crumb at #92 is only a matter of 6 votes (58 votes to 52).
I was very surprised that my #4 pick, One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, didn't get another vote from anyone and missed the Top 100 with only my 47 votes. Tell me I made a mistake! Outstanding must-see film if anyone here hasn't seen it. |
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| tirebiter |
| Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:45 am |
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| I demand that Chinatown be moved up on the list! |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:47 am |
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gromit wrote:
I was very surprised that my #4 pick, One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, didn't get another vote from anyone and missed the Top 100 with only my 47 votes. Tell me I made a mistake! Outstanding must-see film if anyone here hasn't seen it.
I've always been very conflicted about One Flew... There's no doubt that it's a very good movie, but it won the Oscar for Best Picture over Dog Day Afternoon, Nashville, Barry Lyndon, and Jaws, all in their ways (obviously IMO) superior to OFOTCC. |
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| gromit |
| Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:07 am |
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| Barry Lyndon was insanely boring. Midway through I found myself focusing on the set designs and costumes. Some excellent wall-paper, but a snooze of a film. |
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| gromit |
| Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:09 am |
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tirebiter wrote: I demand that Chinatown be moved up on the list!
Bribes are not unheard of in such situations.
I could be persuaded to re-count the votes. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:31 am |
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gromit wrote: Barry Lyndon was insanely boring. Midway through I found myself focusing on the set designs and costumes. Some excellent wall-paper, but a snooze of a film.
There are two schools of thought (I've heard them both a lot) about that movie: yours and mine. Mine is that it's a movie to sink into, like a good book. Yours is that it's a movie to sleep to, like an Enya loop. |
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| mo_flixx |
| Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 12:50 pm |
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gromit wrote: ...
The only one who really expressed an interest and didn't get a list in is Marc, ironically because he's too busy with his film-related businesses.
I had expressed the opinion that the order in a list wasn't so important, that a difference between a #30 and 39 pick wouldn't amount to much. But if you look at the bunch-up in the middle of the overall list, with myriad ties, you'll notice that the difference between for example Chinatown at #43 and the 54th slot is only a matter of 7 votes. Or more extreme, the difference between Breathless at #77 and Crumb at #92 is only a matter of 6 votes (58 votes to 52).
I was very surprised that my #4 pick, One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, didn't get another vote from anyone and missed the Top 100 with only my 47 votes. Tell me I made a mistake! Outstanding must-see film if anyone here hasn't seen it.
Since Marc posted A LOT of his favorite films in 2 emails (I re-posted them about 10 da. ago), if we ever just tabulate the most posted movies; his films _could_ be included.
I admire gromit's effort on all of this - but I'm not going to volunteer to tabulate. I can't -- too much going on at the moment. |
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| lady wakasa |
| Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:22 pm |
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gromit wrote: Bribes are not unheard of in such situations.
I could be persuaded to re-count the votes.
Okay -
#1 - Sympathy for Lady Vengeance
#2 - King and the Clown (I'm still working on that project)
$500. I'll deduct it off my taxes. |
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