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lady wakasa
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 9:45 am Reply with quote
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Joe - well, then, go for it!

tire - this would be different from today how?

Actually, I'd be careful of selection bias. I doubt Variety would have, for example, taken on experimental / avant garde stuff or very many foreign films. (Probably wouldn't have included race pictures, either.) Plus around that time there should have been some taking-a-look-at-WWI films that, while having elements of those plotlines, also dealt with some issues pretty big in the social conscience of the time.
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Marilyn
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 9:46 am Reply with quote
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Lady - I find that the films that deal with WWI tend to be about 10 years older or later.

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lady wakasa
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 9:57 am Reply with quote
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Marilyn wrote:
Thanks, Lady. I still haven't managed to get around to Shadows (caught 30 minutes so far, then fell asleep).

I tried to watch Dreyer's Michael last night, but it did not engage me. It seemed very flat and bloodless, and I couldn't tell the characters apart. It was like a Russian novel, introducing too many characters in the early going. I thought the Duke was Michael for a while.


Really? After all I've heard about the movie, that's disappointing.

The Danish Film Institute (http://www.dfi.dk/) started releasing Dreyer works on DVD a couple years back (it's an ongoing series). I got really excited when I heard the announcement, and I kept checking in for months until they actually made it available. Well, when I watched the DVD (Der Ver Engang / Once Upon A Time), I was kinda shocked - something like Taming of the Shrew, where the selfish princess learns some manners, but it really borders on domestic violence in places. This was 1922 (tire - bet you didn't read that one in your reviews), but it's really uncomfortable in places. And I stopped looking for the updates to the series.

So I was holding out hope that this was a one-off, but maybe it's The Passion of Joan of Arc that's the one-off. %^{
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gromit
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 10:17 am Reply with quote
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I jumped the gun and finally watched The Passion of Joan of Arc, for the first time, over the weekend. Looking forward to when it's discussed, because I was kind of disappointed in it.

Btw, my copy of The Kid (from the Chaplin box I'm fairly certain) looked immaculate. Really a delight to see such an old film look so clean.

Does anyone know the history for this film/print? Is it a matter of Chaplin preserving his own negatives carefully? Or was it such a popular film that it was easy to find a surviving pristine print? A lucky one-off find? Stellar refurbishing? [Inquiring minds want to know]

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Marilyn
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 10:24 am Reply with quote
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If MVerdous were here, he could tell you.

Lady - Frankly, aside from Passion..., I am not a Dreyer fan. I didn't think Vampyr was all that hot, and now Michael fails to impress, though admittedly, I didn't watch the whole thing.

Gromit, one of the cool things about Passion... is that the script is taken from the real transcript of Joan of Arc's trial.

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lady wakasa
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 10:30 am Reply with quote
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gromit wrote:
Looking forward to when it's discussed, because I was kind of disappointed in it.


HERESY!!!

Actually, I'll be interested to see what you didn't like about it.

gromit wrote:
Btw, my copy of The Kid (from the Chaplin box I'm fairly certain) looked immaculate. Really a delight to see such an old film look so clean.

Does anyone know the history for this film/print? Is it a matter of Chaplin preserving his own negatives carefully? Or was it such a popular film that it was easy to find a surviving pristine print? A lucky one-off find? Stellar refurbishing? [Inquiring minds want to know]


I don't know the complete history, but Chaplin did keep control over his own negatives. All the restoration work was done by / in conjunction with whatever foundation exists to care for the film part of Chaplin's estate (MVerdoux will know the story on this).

The Harold Lloyd material is the same story.
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Shane
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 10:37 am Reply with quote
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Also the master himself did the rerelease work, including the music, in 1971.

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gromit
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 11:10 am Reply with quote
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Yeah, restoration. Not refurbishing. Embarassed
I've been in China quite a while . . . sometimes words get lost in the brain-shuffle.

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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 11:19 am Reply with quote
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lady wakasa wrote:
gromit wrote:
Looking forward to when it's discussed, because I was kind of disappointed in it.


HERESY!!!

Actually, I'll be interested to see what you didn't like about it.


OMG, me, too. I couldn't take my eyes off of it. Every single frame of that film is astonishing to me.

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gromit
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 11:34 am Reply with quote
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OMG, me, too. I couldn't take my eyes off of it.

Not me.
My left eye started to fall asleep.
I had to ask one of my left fingers to wake it up.

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Syd
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 11:35 am Reply with quote
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In the meantime, I'm gathering a stake and a lot of firewood. The Passion of Joan of Arc is one of my favorite films of all time.

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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 11:36 am Reply with quote
this forum is boring like a U2 concert
lady wakasa
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 11:41 am Reply with quote
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Then post something you find interesting.
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 11:45 am Reply with quote
a picture of angelina jolie?
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 11:53 am Reply with quote
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lady wakasa wrote:
Then post something you find interesting.


He just can't. Haven't you figured out that ernie's marnie? So boring.

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