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Marc |
Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 9:55 pm |
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LORNE,
PLEASE CHANGE THE NAME OF THIS FORUM TO REFLECT THE NEW TOPIC: FILMS OF THE 90S.
THANKS. |
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Marc |
Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 10:02 pm |
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PULP FICTION is a quintessential nineties film - an indie that became a big hit, a film that plays with and upends genre and form, has a certain postmodernist tongue-in-cheekiness (the casting of Travolta), and is directed by one of the most influential directors of the nineties (Tarantino) - therefore we may want to start the nineties forum with a discussion of PULP FICTION. |
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Trish |
Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 7:30 am |
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This is my shorter list (there are many others I think are great ) of the best 90's films - I would like considered for discussing:
LA Confidential
The Grifters
Croupier
The Ice Storm
Crumb
Unforgiven
Muriel's Wedding |
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gromit |
Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 9:58 am |
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I wouldn't mind a discussion of LA Confidential, since I seem to be the only one who didn't like it. I'm kind of wondering why everyone else is so high on it, and what I may be missing. |
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Trish |
Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 12:02 pm |
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what were your chief complaints Gromit? |
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marantzo |
Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 12:41 pm |
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Gromit, I don't know about anyone else, but I read the book, L.A. Confidential and loved it. The movie is one of the best transcriptions to film of the mood and characters of the book that I can think of. Therefore I loved the movie also. James Elroy also liked the movie, so I suspect you may not like the book. |
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gromit |
Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 1:08 pm |
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Watched it maybe five plus years ago (on VCD), and only a few years later learned that it was so respected. So it didn't make enough of an impression for me to remember it too well. I just found it boring, and kind of silly, while trying hard to be clever. I thought that the characters and their interactions rang false and were overly exaggerated. I seem to remember having problems with the Kevin Spacey reporter role and the police chief.
I know that's all somewhat general, which is why I'd be interested in hearing what other folks liked about it. I also didn't like the wrapping-up and the ending, although I generally don't hold that against a film too much. I might be up for re-watching it. But then again, I just watched The Usual Suspects a few weeks back, and that just elicited a big shrug from me. I think I just don't like the 90's/modern approach to neo-noir and crime thrillers. |
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Jynx |
Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 1:15 pm |
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Ohhhhhhhhh, Trish you are so right ...
THE GRIFTERS
definately belongs in this group. |
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gromit |
Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 9:20 am |
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Well I was waiting for the 90's Forum to open, but here's my (minimally revised) Top Ten Films of the Nineties:
1. Raise The Red Lantern (Zhang, 1991)
2. Being John Malkovich (Jonze, 1999)
3. American Beauty (Mendes, 1999)
4. Ju Dou (Zhang, 1990)
5. Three Kings (Russell, 1999)
6. Blue (Kieslowski, 1993)
7. Wallace & Gromit: The Wrong Trousers (Park, 1993)
8. Hoop Dreams
9. Dead Man (Jarmusch, 1995)
10. The Big Lebowski (Coens, 1998)
Well, all I ended up doing was adding in Hoops Dreams and moving out Boogie Nights. I liked BN, but was impressed with it more than I enjoyed it. I didn't get around to hunting up more 90's titles that I might have forgotten. |
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gromit |
Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 11:12 am |
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Regard or disregard at your pleasure, but I swiped this list from the Criterion board:
The 1990s List (compiled in December 2005)
1. Rushmore (Wes Anderson, 1998) 692
2. Goodfellas (Scorsese, 1990) 632
3. Pulp Fiction (Tarantino, 1994) 587
4. The Big Lebowski (Coen, 1998) 572
5. Red (Kieslowski, 1994) 529
6. Magnolia (PT Anderson, 1999) 498
7. Chungking Express (Wong, 1994) 483
8. Fargo (Coen, 1996) 464
9. Dead Man (Jarmusch, 1995) 453
10. Blue (Kieslowski, 1993) 439
11. The Thin Red Line (Malick, 1998) 405
12. Close Up (Kiarostami, 1990) 399
13. Wild at Heart (Lynch, 1990) 375
14. Short Cuts (Altman, 1993) 366
15. Boogie Nights (PT Anderson, 1997) 365
16. Ed Wood (Burton, 1994) 352
17. Eyes Wide Shut (Kubrick, 1999) 351
18. Fight Club (Fincher, 1999) 350
19. Unforgiven (Eastwood, 1992) 330
20. Safe (Haynes, 1995) 323
21. 12 Monkeys (Gilliam, 1995) 322
All About My Mother (Almodovar, 1999) 322
23. Barton Fink (Coen, 1991) 316
Jackie Brown (Tarantino, 1997) 316
25. Taste of Cherry (Kiarostami, 1997) 311
26. Breaking the Waves (von Trier, 1996) 305
27. Groundhog Day (Ramis, 1993) 304
28. Beau Travail (Denis, 1999) 293
29. Lost Highway (Lynch, 1997) 283
30. American Beauty (Mendes, 1999) 282
31. The Silence of the Lambs (Demme, 1991) 277
32. Se7en (Fincher, 1995) 275
33. The Player (Altman, 1992) 272
34. Being John Malkovich (Jonze, 1999) 271
35. The Wind Will Carry Us (Kiarostami, 1999) 259
36. LA Confidential (Hanson, 1997) 256
37. The Double Life of Veronique (Kieslowski, 1991) 254
38. Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me (Lynch, 1992) 239
39. Miller's Crossing (Coen, 1990) 235
40. Schlinder's List (Spielberg, 1993) 233
41. Underground (Kusturica, 1995) 232
42. Rosetta (Dardenne, 1999) 230
43. Husbands and Wives (Allen, 1992) 229
44. The Celebration (Vinterberg, 1998) 220
45. Twin Peaks: Pilot (Lynch, 1990) 213
46. Election (Payne, 1999) 211
Three Kings (Russell, 1999) 211
48. The Nightmare Before Christmas (Selick, 1993) 202
49. Happy Together (Wong, 1997) 200
50. Crash (Cronenberg, 1996) 193
51. Naked Lunch (Cronenberg, 1991) 190
52. Happiness (Solondz, 1998) 184
53. Heavenly Creatures (Jackson, 1994) 177
Lessons of Darkness (Herzog, 1992) 177
55. Life and Nothing More (Kiarostami, 1991) 176
56. JFK (Stone, 1991) 175
Wallace & Gromit: The Wrong Trousers (Park, 1993) 175
58. Heat (Mann, 1995) 174
59. Reservoir Dogs (Tarantino, 1992) 170
60. Casino (Scorsese, 1995) 169
61. Princess Mononoke (Miyazaki, 1997) 166
The Straight Story (Lynch, 1999) 166
63. La Belle Noiseuse (Rivette, 1991) 165
64. Bottle Rocket (Wes Anderson, 1996) 160
65. Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas (Gilliam, 1998) 155
66. Before Sunrise (Linklater, 1995) 152
67. Glengarry Glen Ross (Foley, 1992) 151
68. Secrets & Lies (Leigh, 1996) 149
69. Fallen Angels (Wong, 1995) 145
70. Out of Sight (Soderbergh, 1998) 143
71. Irma Vep (Assayas, 1996) 142
The Shawshank Redemption (Darabont, 1994) 142
73. Ghost Dog: The Way of the Samurai (Jarmusch, 1999) 141
Raise the Red Lantern (Yimou, 1991) 141
75. The Truman Show (Weir, 1998) 134
76. Hoop Dreams (James, 1994) 133
The Kingdom (Arnfred/von Trier, 1994) 133
78. Satantango (Tarr, 1994) 131
79. Show Me Love (Moodysson, 1998) 130
80. My Own Private Idaho (Van Sant, 1991) 128
81. The Hudsucker Proxy (Coen, 1994) 127
82. Naked (Leigh, 1993) 126
83. Lone Star (Sayles, 1996) 125
84. Saving Private Ryan (Spielberg, 1998) 122
85. La Promesse (Dardenne, 1996) 121
The Limey (Soderbergh, 1999) 121
87. To Live (Yimou, 1994) 120
White (Kieslowski, 1994) 120
89. Edward Scissorhands (Burton, 1990) 117
90. Run Lola Run (Tykwer, 1998) 115
Welcome to the Dollhouse (Solondz, 1995) 115
Wallace & Gromit: A Close Shave (Park, 1995) 115
93. Terminator 2: Judgement Day (Cameron, 1991) 113
94. Ashes of Time (Wong, 1994) 111
95. Flowers of Shanghai (Hou, 1998) 109
96. The Virgin Suicides (Coppola, 1999) 107
97. Ratcatcher (Ramsay, 1999) 106
98. Lovers of the Arctic Circle (Medem, 1998) 104
The Matrix (Wachowski, 1999) 104
100. Crumb (Zwigoff, 1994) 103
Toy Story (Lasseter, 1995) 103 |
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Kate |
Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 3:07 pm |
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Gromit - just the list I needed, thanks. I think this could be a great forum for the summer. |
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Jynx |
Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 7:28 pm |
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Gromit - thanks for including Election another of my favs. I have to also add The Basketball Diaries.
Election = asian hard on -- my daughter had that texted to her! Kids  |
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marantzo |
Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 8:09 pm |
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Tell your daughter that that joke is older than her grandparents. |
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Marc |
Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 8:17 pm |
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Lorne,
please change the name of this forum. Or instruct ehle, billy or shannon on how to do it. You gotta help us out here. |
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Jynx |
Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 9:24 pm |
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I know marantz, and I did get a good snicker, snort from it. She was horrified I found it funny. |
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