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| Jynx |
 Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 11:32 am |
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Wow, I was going to agree that I was happy Axl was done, but I think I'll keep my mouth shut now.
By-the-by Marc, I hear your ring is over in the NYTFF and JBot/OCB is playing dick-tater and using it as a monocle. |
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| Marc |
| Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 11:36 am |
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Quote: By-the-by Marc, I hear your ring is over in the NYTFF and JBot/OCB is playing dick-tater and using it as a monocle.
THATS HILARIOUS.
NO ONE ATTACKS AXL UNTIL BROWNSTONE STARTS FEELING BETTER. |
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| Jynx |
| Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 11:42 am |
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I agree ... let's hold off on Axl, he has no one to defend him except Tim.
GnR/Axl Rose Moritorium is now in place.
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| jeremy |
| Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 11:52 am |
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Marc,
Your a strange guy. You like to hang tough and play with the boys, criticising those who can't stand the heat or don't appreciate your idea of humour, but you get called out over something in one forum and you let it rankle, storing up your bile until an opportunity presents itself to spatter the forum with your spew.
It would be pathetic, even if it wasn't so hypocritical.
I've never claimed to be hip, but courtesy of geography and timing, I got to ride on the coat tails of punk and the dance and indie scenes it seeded. 10 years on from punk, I got to go again when house and rave ruled, though the Second Summer of Love never made it to America. Am I living off those experiences, maybe. Don't we all hark back to first loves and what we considered rock 'n' roll. Better that than desperately trying to keep up with something that doesn't belong to you.
These days, I watch rock 'n' roll from a safe distance, slightly embarassed that I haven't moved on, but I still reckon my antenae are pretty good. |
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| Marc |
| Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 12:02 pm |
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Quote: but you get called out over something in one forum and you let it rankle, storing up your bile until an opportunity presents itself to spatter the forum with your spew.
Jeremy,
I don't know what "you get called out over something in one forum"
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| Marc |
| Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 12:15 pm |
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Quote: NO ONE ATTACKS AXL UNTIL BROWNSTONE STARTS FEELING BETTER.
Even though thats intended to be a joke, it does reflect a feeling I have.
I personally don't dig kicking people when their down. Knowing how brown is feeling these days and knowing how much he digs Axl, I thought Jeremy's snide comment about Axl was a tad bit nasty. So, I responded in kind. Of course, brown is a big boy and can handle himself.
Jeremy,
it seems you evoke your distant punk past everytime you need to give yourself some street cred. I know you're hip...going to raves and all.
I bet you've even eaten X. |
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| McBain |
| Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 12:15 pm |
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| I saw Axl in one of the last shows before the tour was aborted in 2002. He ended with Paradise City that night. |
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| Jynx |
| Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 12:24 pm |
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Speaking of street cred ... Creed broke up, well actually kicked Scott Stapp out. I invited him to crash at my place if he wanted to.
Maroon 5 and Genesis today ... very, very good mix. |
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| jeremy |
| Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 12:28 pm |
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Your right that Tim can handle himself and he'd probably resent that you set yourself to protect his hurt feelings. Diddums. Nobody asked me how I am. If I posted on how good Morrisey was for the hundredth time, I'd expect some flak. Though I could understand why someone might think so, as far as I'm concerned this forum is most definitely not a Guns 'n' Roses love-in. Who went for that shit.
Perhaps someone who spent the decade dateless, stranded in small-town, pre-MTV Middle America, spending their Saturdays stacking shelves in order to pay for a periodic fix of stadium rock with their sartorially challenged buddies, could be forgiven for thinking that heavy metal, and particularly, Gun s ‘N’ Roses ruled the eighties and nineties.
The church of heavy metal; that bizarre, male only sect, whose devotees are normally identifiable by their too frequently worn tour tee shirts and compromised complexions. Rightfully fearful of ridicule, they gather in secret to practice their empty rituals, the true meaning of which were lost in a smoke machine generated miasma of early seventies bombast. Confusing noise with rebellion and speed with freedom, they worship at the altar of rock ‘n’ roll, seemingly unaware that its spirit has long since moved on. |
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| Marc |
| Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 12:36 pm |
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| yeah, but THE DARKNESS rocks! |
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| jeremy |
| Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 12:50 pm |
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I quite like The Darkness, but don’t really understand why they have become such a phenomenon.
In sound and style, they make no attempt to hide 70s metal and glam rock stylings, but it wouldn’t be fair to call them a retro band when they sound so fresh. So why am I holding back, why the quite qualifier, why don’t they hit my musical g-spot? Is that I worry that their pastiche is symptomatic of a modern loss of confidence, a world where nobody can show too much ambition for fear of failure, a world where the best defence against being found wanting is to laugh at yourself before others do. But if they haven’t the confidence to take themselves seriously why should I.
I feel there popularity may be a negative reaction to what else is on offer. Hip-hop has few heroes and little too say. The more success its stars achieve, the more risible they become. Even the teenage whiteboys originally attracted by the urban myth making are ill at ease with their ostentation and misogyny. Mainstream pop is seen as manipulative and manufactured. So-called indie rock may once have been a natural home for the disaffected, but it has slid into a slough of wailing introspection.
Metal, new and heavy, offers musicianship and honesty, and, in many ways, is a welcome antidote to the capricious fashion, but, with its bombast, siege mentality and macho rituals, it is largely fun free zone, a sanctuary for bemused boys who’ve given up on girls.
Too much cynicism is bad for a growing soul. What a relief The Darkness must have been for those tired of maintaining their bullshit detectors. Four deeply unfashionable lads from Lowestoft who stayed in their bedrooms and learnt to play their instruments, and now, like their fans, just want to have fun. I’m enjoying the ride too, but sooner or later, I, and I suspect many others, will want to move on. |
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| chillywilly |
| Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:12 pm |
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All I can say about the Creed annoucement is that it was about time. Scott's oversized ego couldn't fit in anywhere for the last 2 years and it's about time the other band mates used their talents in other places, without bowing to Stapp-ravation and his never ending "I am God" pledges.
Creed's first album was listened to a lot here and it really was good in it's time. But the the other two albums left a lot to be desired.
As far as the Darkness goes, I really like their stage persona more than their sound. I'm happy that a band like that is popular and is making waves on the music scene, but at the same time, I really don't connect that well with their sound. KNAC.com plays that song so much.. at least lately, they've cooled off. Thank god.
Heavy metal types - I love metal and a while there are some metal bands that I cannot stand (Slipknot being one of them), there are some that I think are pretty great. And in still liking metal after 27 years of listening, there never were shrines or alters or any other things I did in my life to worship their lifestyle. There were some songs that insprired me, caused me to get off my ass and take care of shit... motivation in general, I never felt the need to belong to any Church Of Metal. BTW, the best new metal band of today has to be Killswitch Engage There's something about them that clicks here.
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| shannon |
| Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:35 pm |
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| I've heard the Velvet Revolver now and I'm disappointed. Like Audioslave before them, the music sounds contrived like they're trying really hard to make the STP and the GnR go well together, but it just won't work. Having heard the album three times through already, I can that the only track that really stands out is "Slither." The rest just kinda runs together. No choruses, no hooks, just plenty of Weiland doing his boring, fake-tough, Core singing voice and using a lot of extraneous profanity. In fact, it's Weiland moreso than the rest of the band whom I blame the album's failure upon. The band kicks, even if they're playing a basic Appetite for Destruction retread. But Weiland is trying so damned hard make out like a tough guy, not understanding that part of his appeal in STP post-Core (when he dropped the grunge an embraced his closet drag queen) was that he wasn't a tough guy, but a heroin-chic fey boy in glittery T-Rex pants. Even when STP got really heavy in No. 4, there was still that discrepancy between lead singer and band which resulted in some really fine music. That discrepancy is a gone with Velvet Revolver and we're left with generic "down n' dirty" and it just ain't fun. |
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| shannon |
| Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:37 pm |
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| But this new Beastie Boys is damn fine. Their brattiest album since Paul's Boutique and they're most simplisticly produced since Licensed to Ill. |
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| Jynx |
| Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 2:17 pm |
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Lenny Kravitz's Baptism is fanphucingtastic. He'll be in the Hall of Fame on his 20th year, no doubt.
As far as Stapp, yes he had a Christ-fixation but, man-oh-man, would he be a excellent blues singer. Or a jazz singer.
Deep, lusty, thick and oozing from his sweet, full, pink lips. DAMN, wadda shame.
I hear some of the VR via my niece ... um, I didn't like it at all. But I didn't like (appreciate?) a lot of singers until later in life or until their 'let's play thi ssong every five minutes' thingy was up. |
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