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billyweeds
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:04 am Reply with quote
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Well, that's her opinion. And since I never agree with her anyway, she's preserved her batting average.
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billyweeds
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:05 am Reply with quote
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Well, that's her opinion. And since I never agree with her anyway, she's preserved her batting average.
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yambu
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:06 am Reply with quote
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billyweeds wrote:
Yam--Sorry for the snarkiness.
Cool. Thank you for saying so.
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Joe Vitus
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:12 am Reply with quote
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billyweeds wrote:
Well, that's her opinion. And since I never agree with her anyway, she's preserved her batting average.


She's possibly my favorite critic today. But as I haven't seen the episode myself, I can't say whether or not I agree with her in this case.

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yambu
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:13 am Reply with quote
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Joe Vitus wrote:
Billy,

I thought Six Feet Under in its prime was a work of art. And, of course, Buffy the Vampire Slayer (with Angel it depends on the epidsode).
Buffy, Six Ft Under, Sopranos.....who's gonna give The Wire its deserved place in that pantheon? I guess I will.
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Joe Vitus
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:36 am Reply with quote
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Never watched The Wire, but I believe Havrilesky would agree with you.

By the way, I don't consider every show I like a work of art. Voyager wasn't. X-Files wasn't. The Addams Family wasn't.

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billyweeds
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 5:24 am Reply with quote
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yambu wrote:
Joe Vitus wrote:
Billy,

I thought Six Feet Under in its prime was a work of art. And, of course, Buffy the Vampire Slayer (with Angel it depends on the epidsode).
Buffy, Six Ft Under, Sopranos.....who's gonna give The Wire its deserved place in that pantheon? I guess I will.


The Wire has never grabbed me at all. Way too convoluted.
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marantzo
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:21 am Reply with quote
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billyweeds wrote:
Gary--How do you know?

Yam--Sorry for the snarkiness.


I read it. I think there were four different endings. I don't remember if they were all filmed or just written, but pretty sure they were filmed. Apparently no one in the cast knew what the ending was going to be. Unless the article was just fabricated, which I doubt. As you know I haven't seen it, but I'd imagine that it was the last scene or two that had multiple versions.
yambu
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:51 am Reply with quote
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billyweeds wrote:
The Wire has never grabbed me at all. Way too convoluted.
It is convoluted. I had to commit to watching it twice every week. I always enjoyed the second viewing more. It was the best TV time I ever spent.
The last season, set in the Baltimore school system, shows us where all the bad guys we had been watching for years, came from. It is heart-wrenching, uplifting, and powerful. The main writer - I forget his name - had spent years as a Baltimore cop, and then a high school teacher.
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billyweeds
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 10:22 am Reply with quote
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marantzo wrote:
billyweeds wrote:
Gary--How do you know?

Yam--Sorry for the snarkiness.


I read it. I think there were four different endings. I don't remember if they were all filmed or just written, but pretty sure they were filmed. Apparently no one in the cast knew what the ending was going to be. Unless the article was just fabricated, which I doubt. As you know I haven't seen it, but I'd imagine that it was the last scene or two that had multiple versions.


The actor who played Agent Harris says that the final scene had more footage with the Man in the Members Only jacket moving toward Tony's booth in the diner. I also heard that Meadow sat down and they had some dialogue. I still say the ending that was chosen was the best.
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marantzo
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 10:46 am Reply with quote
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It sounds like an ending that I'd like also.
yambu
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 11:13 am Reply with quote
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Why don't you just watch it, Gary? Isn't it being shown several times this week up there?
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marantzo
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:57 pm Reply with quote
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We don't have HBO up here. I'm catching up on some other channels but it's erratic and they aren't into the last season.
jeremy
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 7:55 pm Reply with quote
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/ben_macintyre/article1934775.ece?openComment=true#comments-form

Sorry Yambu, but this piece from the Times (London) promulgates the idea of the The Sopranos as both Shakespearean and Dickension, and even suggests the series should be treated as "high art".

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Ghulam
Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 10:59 am Reply with quote
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I liked the piece from The Times. Thanks Jeremy.
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