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billyweeds
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 10:48 pm Reply with quote
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Joe Vitus wrote:
Embarassed


Watch it, Joe. I don't take kindly to being called a liar.
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Joe Vitus
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 12:10 am Reply with quote
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I love it when you get tough.

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shannon
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 3:31 am Reply with quote
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yambu wrote:
Hustle and Flow. You may not guess it, but I'm not a hiphop fan. But when Terrence Howard sang "It Ain't Over For Me", I had tears. There was something about the setup - allusions to his dead father, his own dreams for something better. And, of course, Terrence Howard himself. It surprised the hell out of me, because up until then, I didn't think I was that involved. And my involvement waned later. (I could have written the last 15 minutes.) But that one scene in the bedroom studio slings Howard past Hoffman for when I vote here. It's rare moments like these that keep me watching movies.


I love this post.
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gromit
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 9:32 am Reply with quote
Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 9016 Location: Shanghai
Anyone up on Indian cinema?
There's a new release (2005) called Sarkar which is being praised as an Indian "Godfather."

I recently watched another Indian film, Shadow Kill (2002) by Adoor Gopalakrishnan. The tale of an old executioner who is starting to have doubts about his profession, and the effects this has on him and his family. I enjoyed this, but really having seen so few Indian films, I didn't have much to relate it to. Interesting how prayer rituals and religious-philosophical ideas were woven tightly into daily life. The film was visually impressive. The last 15 minutes of the film had a different rhythm, ambiguity and structure than ordinarily found in American films.

Any other "serious" Indian films of the past 30 years that I should be on the look-out for?
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ehle64
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 10:29 am Reply with quote
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I guess I'm the only one in here that found Hustle & Flow to be wildly overrated. Granted Terrence Howard was great as DJay, but the film seemed like an MTV Production to me. Oh wait, it was.

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billyweeds
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 10:35 am Reply with quote
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ehle64 wrote:
I guess I'm the only one in here that found Hustle & Flow to be wildly overrated. Granted Terrence Howard was great as DJay, but the film seemed like an MTV Production to me. Oh wait, it was.


Manohla Dargis of the Times agrees with you. She seems apolectic about the fact that this movie, which she hated on sight at last year's Sundance festival, has taken off commercially. She can't let up. In a column this week, she came back to it as though its success is a personal affront to her. What an idiot. (Not you, just her.) It's okay to dislike a film, but that woman is completely nutty.
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ehle64
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 10:47 am Reply with quote
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Well, I didn't entirely dislike the picture. Just didn't seem like it deserves all the accolades it's receiving from people in here. And there certainly won't be any crusading on my part. Plus, I finally got to know where sioux's tagline came from. When that was said in the flick I knew I had heard it somewhere before.

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gromit
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 12:31 pm Reply with quote
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ehle64 wrote:
I guess I'm the only one in here that found Hustle & Flow to be wildly overrated.

More like you're the only one of at least three.
I thought I posted almost too much about my dislike of H&F. I did go back and watch the last hour, and still found it utterly unconvincing. Maybe I'll have to read the Dargis review. But I have no problem with other people enjoying a film which I didn't.

Yambu also said that he didn't like H&F much, except for one scene which made him cry like a little girl (which was pretty much my reaction to In Her Shoes).
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Befade
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 12:42 pm Reply with quote
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Billyweeds wrote: "Manohla Dargis of the Times agrees with you. She seems apolectic about the fact that this movie, which she hated on sight at last year's Sundance festival, has taken off commercially. She can't let up. In a column this week, she came back to it as though its success is a personal affront to her. What an idiot. (Not you, just her.) It's okay to dislike a film, but that woman is completely nutty."

I would like to know why we never see her photo in the Times. We see Holden's and Scott's. Is she really short, fat, and ugly........maybe really old......what else could there be.?
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lady wakasa
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 12:49 pm Reply with quote
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Does it matter?
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dlhavard
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 12:57 pm Reply with quote
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Been watching the Hayou Miyazaki films on Turner and would like to post a few comments on them. Didn't get to see them all but did see a few.

To my mind Spirited Away is (so far) the best in terms of story, plotting, characters and overall artistry. (One scene that comes to mind is Sen sitting on the train and her reflection is on the glass window. Now that's artistry!)

My Neighbor Totoro - this was a delight. Vaguely reminiscent of Monsters Inc. (Darling little girl and large monster) It is a wonderful story and the girls and story are sweet without being saccharine.

Princess Mononoke and Nausicaa I have grouped these two together because they seemed very similar to me. Of the two Nausicaa is the better story simply because most of Mononoke is "technology bad/animals good" variety.

Porco Rosso - this is a more adult tale of advertures during the two world wars. I didn't get to see it all but enjoyed it and am now actively looking for it.

Those are all I've gotten to see so far.
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yambu
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 1:03 pm Reply with quote
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gromit wrote:
.....Yambu also said that he didn't like H&F much, except for one scene which made him cry like a little girl....
More like a girlie man.
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Befade
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 1:44 pm Reply with quote
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Lady wrote: "Does it matter?"

It must matter to Dargis to be the only exception to the rule......and it makes me curious.
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Trish
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 1:55 pm Reply with quote
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http://pullquote.typepad.com/pullquote/2004/06/manohla_dargis__1.html

http://www.reel.com/Content/Reelimages/hollconf/0929_counterpoint.jpg
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Marc
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 2:17 pm Reply with quote
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can anyone provide a link to Dargis's HUSTLE & FLOW review?
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