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| Rod |
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ehle64 wrote: The only reason I'd see that film for would be the brilliant Dakota Fanning.[/color][/b]
Who is indeed very good, smart ass. |
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| Shane |
| Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 9:41 am |
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| So much for a moderate moderator. I don't think the term Mini-Marc when seen in action speaks well of your qualifications though it does speak accurately. |
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I'd like to continue the argument we were having before. What was it about? |
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| jeremy |
| Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 11:18 am |
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| Sometimes mainstream films are mainstream for reasons other than appealling to a low common denominator. |
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| ehle64 |
| Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 1:24 pm |
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Shane wrote: So much for a moderate moderator. I don't think the term Mini-Marc when seen in action speaks well of your qualifications though it does speak accurately.
I never really can tell what you're trying to say. I reserve the right as a regular poster to comment on film. Also, to show my frustration at the sometimes insular viewing habits of our film society. Also, to be an occassional smart-ass. I mean come on, it doesn't mean I love you guys any less.
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| bocce |
| Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 1:42 pm |
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Nancy wrote: gromit wrote: Last Tango in Paris bored me more thoroughly and profoundly than any other film in memory.
I also found it incredibly boring, though it was exceeded by Last Year At Marienbad. (Maybe it's a "Last" thing.......)
actually, LYAM was intentionally meant to be boring...
alain robbe-grillet (who wrote the screenplay) used both repetitive action and dialogue as a device in many of his early novels. developing concentric circles was used as an irritant/narcotic agent to point up the stasis of a life built upon habit until one very slight deviation breaks the chain of morbidity.
that's the theory at least and resnais, the director, would return to this and other specific narrative conceits throughout his career. he was heavily influenced by the structuralist movement and, in particular, the literary theories of roland barthes and jacques derrida.
if one knows this going in, the film is easier to take on a narrative level (altho the cinematography is stand alone brilliant). otherwise, i'll agree you're in for one dead dull ride. |
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| lshap |
| Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 2:00 pm |
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Man, this was the last place I thought to look for comments on Ehle as the Moderator for the Film Forum.
How do I say this...it's not really a vote. None of us - me, Marc, Billy, Marj, Shannon - were voted in. We were acquainted enough with the place and the people, we were around enough to monitor the overall tone, and we had enough good judgement to adjudicate the handful of issues that cropped up.
Yes, there's no question that Ghulam is probably the sanest person here, but he's clearly not interested in the prospect of refereeing. Jeremy, Lady W., Syd, Yambu would also be great (Joe and Marilyn took themselves out of the running).
But Wade has all those qualifications, plus the most crucial one: He stepped up and said he'd do it. Good enough for me. This place is now in fine hands. |
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| gromit |
| Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 2:06 pm |
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| Marc |
| Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 2:15 pm |
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I think ehle will discover what I discovered:
whether you like it or not, as a moderator you will be held to a higher standard. Your mood swings and provocations can and will set a tone.
If a moderator carries no clout, why even have one? As a moderator, I often felt responsible for the failure of a forum to stay on topic or when discussions degenerated into mindless yapping, happy talk. At that point, I would turn into a kamikaze moderator, dropping bombs in an effort to shake up and re-invigorate (and sometimes destroy) stuff that I felt was degrading the forums. Of course, in doing this I often became more the problem than the solution. This was oprobably particularly confusing to newbies who were unfamiliar with my style (or as some might say "lack of style")
ehle,
I hate to tell you this but you are going to have to walk a fine line between being your emotional self and being moderate. If you go off the handle, as I sometimes did, you will create a shitload of grief for yourself. If you lose the respect of the members of this forum, it won't matter what you call yourself. No one will care. Or worse, they'll resent you for having a wee bit of power that you are abusing. |
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| Ghulam |
| Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 2:18 pm |
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"But Wade has all those qualifications, plus the most crucial one: He stepped up and said he'd do it. Good enough for me. This place is now in fine hands."
I fully concur. |
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| bocce |
| Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 2:21 pm |
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lorne...
are you originally from newfoundland?
juuust kidding.... |
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| lshap |
| Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 2:29 pm |
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bocce wrote: lorne...
are you originally from newfoundland?
Is this an arcane joke, or are you making small talk? |
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| bocce |
| Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 2:35 pm |
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| it's an arcane joke with the same implication as when it was fresh... |
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| Befade |
| Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 2:43 pm |
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"Last Tango in Paris bored me more thoroughly and profoundly than any other film in memory."
That's too bad.
Last Tango is a brilliant film dealing with GRIEF. Marlon Brando, after his wife's suicide, is at a loss to find any reason to live.
Bertolucci is using Brando's sexuality as an expression of his anger at his wife and his desire to find love of his own life.
SPOILERS: By the end of the movie.........Brando wants to love this girl.....he wants to know her name. But Bertolucci doesn't do Hollywood endings (watch Besieged) and the girl thought this was just a sex thing and freaks out...........shooting him. |
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| Rod |
| Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 3:22 pm |
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| Some points of order on Last Tango in Paris: 1) I love it 2) It is NOT a film for all moods. For the occasions when I am in the mood to watch it there are also times when having to watch it would cause me to tear my teeth out. |
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| Marj |
| Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 3:56 pm |
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| Good point Rod. I've only seen it once and thought it was amazing. But I can understand other's reactions. Who knows, were I to see it under other circumstances I might agree. |
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