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Ghulam
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 5:00 pm Reply with quote
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"If anything TBH was pedantic, as though Lang had phoned it in."

Exactly my feeling, Marj.
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Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 5:15 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 24 May 2004 Posts: 3058 Location: Gotham, Big Apple, The Naked City
Lang's Scarlet Street possibly the coldest and most mean spirited noir ever (the best ingredient I think) has a prototype cuckold in the making perfectly played by E. G. Robinson as an old retiree looking for more than a gold watch and hoping that "more" will be provided by his new young streetwalking "girlfriend" a swell "femme fatale" portrayed by Joan Bennet.

Her boyfriend/pimp is played by the sleaziest of sleeze portrayers, Dan Duryea. This film is a remake essentially of Renoir's La Chienne/The Bitch but is far creepier. It is Lang's best American film IMO. It covers similar ground to Woman In The Window his previous noir with the exact same actors and is quite similar, but this time with even less socially acceptable characters.

This is another better thought out version of the respectable older gentleman being driven to near madness and crime by the torment and promise of a beautiful and loving relationship from a lying scum of a whore (Bennett). He is trying to escape a shrew of a wife and ends up with much worse. (classic noir plot escalation !) This is the kind of film that makes you squirm with the awful feeling of what can happen to hope and decency when one is too hungry for both. Just cold man...

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billyweeds
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 5:34 pm Reply with quote
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Her boyfriend/pimp is played by the sleaziest of sleeze portrayers, Dan Duryea.

IMO Duryea all but steals the movie. It's his best performance and better than anything Lee Marvin ever did (in the same vein).
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Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 5:39 pm Reply with quote
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Nice review of Gun Crazy Marilyn.

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Ghulam
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 8:16 pm Reply with quote
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Censored, you make Scarlet Street sound like The Robert Blake story.
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Marilyn
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 9:17 pm Reply with quote
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Thanks, censored. Your take on In My Country was right on the money, too.

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Marj
Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 12:31 am Reply with quote
Joined: 21 May 2004 Posts: 10497 Location: Manhattan
Censored - I know I've seen Scarlet Street. But it must have been years ago. Now I am going to be sure to see it again, keeping what you said in mind. Thanks.
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Shane
Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 12:43 pm Reply with quote
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Gun Crazy gave me hope that some of this fleating style would ruboff on others, like soot ya know.

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Ghulam
Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 12:33 pm Reply with quote
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Marc or someone may want to initiate a conversation regarding the next forum.
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Marilyn
Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 12:36 pm Reply with quote
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Weren't we talking about doing westerns?

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Ghulam
Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 1:16 pm Reply with quote
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There was a mention of Westerns.
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Shane
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 3:46 am Reply with quote
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Wow, that could cover a lot of teritory, pardner.

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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 4:29 am Reply with quote
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Oh Jesus..I gotta watch 25 westerns with my wife ?!!!!!! Shocked Rolling Eyes

I still like character actors and their various social ramifications. (the-asexual-sidekick, tough-guys and molls, the-cook-as-spiritual-advisor in westerns, the odd-man-out character, love triangle victims, saloon ladies, police chiefs and their deputies, song-and-dance men/women, roman/christian epic actors, comic relief folks, the mammy, efite-snobs, gun-slingers etc.)

Or a Hal Ashby or Peter Weir mini-directors forum.

What about a William Goldman screenwriter/director forum ?

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ehle64
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 4:47 am Reply with quote
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What about a Fellini forum?
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lshap
Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 10:09 am Reply with quote
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I think we should set a cutoff date for this forum to be archived, and continue the discussion over in the lobby on what genre comes next.
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