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billyweeds
Posted: Sun May 05, 2019 10:01 am Reply with quote
Joined: 20 May 2004 Posts: 20392 Location: New York City
bartist wrote:

Would you believe I have no memory of seeing Frenzy? On the list it goes. I suppose bad movies are always a potential guilty pleasure because you come out knowing better what it is you want.


The most horrible thing about Frenzy is that, despite its loathsome plot and sensibility, it's by far the best-crafted movie Hitchcock made in his final decade-and-a-half. There's one tracking shot in particular that is masterful and memorable. But I'm a contrarian. I happen to pretty much love Family Plot, which most people think is mediocre. Pretty ordinary in terms of camerawork and pacing, but Barbara Harris and Bruce Dern are undeniably terrific, with the kind of comic and romantic chemistry you can't buy. As a comedy thriller, it has it all over The Trouble with Harry, which I think has a stronger reputation. The only things about TTwH I like are the photography of New England in autumn and the film debut of one of my favorite movie stars, Shirley MacLaine.
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bartist
Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 8:35 am Reply with quote
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SPOILERS AHEAD

Watched Frenzy - I didn't find it vile as much as pedestrian, with some moments of Hitchian dark humour for a little relief, that one great tracking shot leaving Bob's flat and silently out into the street as a murder happens, and a peculiar focus on a detective's wife's experiments with French cuisine. That last not misogynistic in the overt sense but a sort of pedestrian march of feminine stereotype that was possibly getting stale even in 1972. Overall, I felt that Hitch indulged in overlong scenes with the sordid and brutal (potato truck finger-breaking, the rape/murder), giving me the feeling of a director trying to keep up with the times rather than stick to his strengths.

Amusing curtain line, though the final scenes feel sort of rushed, and again Hitch can't seem to resist another gratuitous sordid moment where John Finch takes a couple whacks with a tire iron at a woman's corpse (mistaking the figure under the bedding to be the villainous Mr Rusk). It could be a clumsy way to further lead the viewer to believe Finch deserved his ordeal and time spent locked up. And again, by making the hero something of an anti-hero, a directorial stab at staying relevant.

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bartist
Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 11:13 am Reply with quote
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Which I guess this thread isn't.

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billyweeds
Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 11:42 am Reply with quote
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bartist wrote:
Which I guess this thread isn't.


To me it is.
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