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carrobin
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:38 am Reply with quote
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How did you access those BBC shows? I've never seen Richard II, but I saw Ron Cook as Richard III in what must have been the same series, and it was excellent. (I've only ever seen Cook as a comic in British sitcoms otherwise.)
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Syd
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Netflix has a bunch of them available through their DVD queue. I have the two parts of Henry IV, As You Like It, Antony and Cleopatra and Cymbeline coming, too.

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yambu
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Syd wrote:
Netflix has a bunch of them available through their DVD queue. I have the two parts of Henry IV, As You Like It, Antony and Cleopatra and Cymbeline coming, too.
About forty years ago BBC-TV produced over twenty plays. Acting was mostly by the RSC. It was video taped inside TV studios. Still, it was the only way TV was giving us Shakespeare, and the DVDs are still worthwhile.

Look at the recent Hollow Crown series of history plays on Netflix. Also, there is "Looking for Richard". Pacino and Spacey do a promo for "Shakespeare in the Park", interviewing people on the street. A lot of laughs. They also do a Richard III scene - "I'm not in the giving vein" - that is electric.

My all time favorite is Olivier's Richard III. He's hammy as hell - how about his death scene? - but because it's Larry, it's absolutely correct.

We go up to Ashland every year to catch four plays. In about four years from now they will start producing the plays in modern verse. That's when we bow out.
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marantzo
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I saw Richard III at 1956.

When I was in New York Manhattan at 1956 I was with a girl in a famous restaurant (not there anymore). It was on a night we were in when I saw Laurence Olivier on a table just across from us with three others on his table. I was pretty excited and took my menu to him to get him to write his name on my menu. He did of course write his name, but he turned his seat away from his friends on the table and started talking to me. I told him that I loved the Richard III movie and said he was great in that film.

He talked to me allot, but I was having a problem thinking about what to say. I was standing there for about ten minutes. I thanked him very much. and he talked very interesting to me. He did thank me about telling him that he was great in Richard III.

He was in a play on Broadway. Damn, I can't remember the name of the play.

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Becket

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marantzo wrote:


He was in a play on Broadway. Damn, I can't remember the name of the play.


The Entertainer?
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marantzo
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billyweeds wrote:
marantzo wrote:


He was in a play on Broadway. Damn, I can't remember the name of the play.


The Entertainer?


Yeah Billy, that's the name of the play. Thanks.

I also think that I was there that time of 1957, not 1956.

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Syd
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The Great Debaters (2007): Absorbing, if formulaic, story of how a debate team from tiny black Wiley College demolished the competition from local schools, then accepted an invitation from the National Champions (here Harvard, in real life USC) and demolished them, too. Nice acting from Denzel Washington, Forest and Denzel Whitaker, Nate Parker and Jurnee Smollett as Samantha Booke (in real life Henrietta Bell, who I'd actually heard of). No idea why the changes, although I guess if you get a chance to film on Harvard's debate stage, you jump on it. Several of the characters, Melvin Tolson (Washington), James L. Farmer Sr. and Jr. (the Whitakers) are substantial figures in black history, with James L. Farmer Jr. being one of the leaders of the Civil Rights movement.

This is the second of three films directed by Denzel Washington, the first being Antwone Fisher, and the third, the upcoming Fences.


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Syd
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yambu wrote:
About forty years ago BBC-TV produced over twenty plays. Acting was mostly by the RSC. It was video taped inside TV studios. Still, it was the only way TV was giving us Shakespeare, and the DVDs are still worthwhile.


They did all 37 of Shakespeare's plays, including some late collaborations. I saw maybe a half dozen of them, my favorite being Measure for Measure, though since I've only seen it once, I don't remember it well. I also liked The Taming of the Shrew and the part of Richard II I saw and largely forgot.

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billyweeds
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 6:21 am Reply with quote
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Seen a few things on Netflix and Amazon Prime. Middle of Nowhere is a 2012 feature directed by Ava Duvernay, the woman behind Selma. MoN is a terrific little movie about a woman finding herself when her husband is jailed for many years. It's emotionally grounded and beautifully handled and very much worth checking out.

The documentary De Palma is basically a conversation with Brian De Palma in which he discusses what seems like all of his almost 40 features. He doesn't hold back when he doesn't like someone (I'm talking to you, Cliff Robertson) and he dishes out some dirt, but also has a lot of interesting stuff to say about the films and the craft and business dealings behind them. Film buffs should love this one.

The doc prompted me to see Passion (2012), De Palma's latest, which is a sometimes-interesting-sometimes-not remake of the French semi-noir Love Crime. It stars Rachel McAdams and Noomi Rapace, both of whom are good in this weird "thriller" which starts intriguingly but gets convoluted and hard to follow. It's not as good as Love Crime, which was not great in the first place.


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I saw the Middle of Nowhere dvd here last week but the basic plot seemed generic enough that it could be good, bad or anywhere in between. Might give it a try.

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yambu
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Lastly, a very satisfying nine-part workshop by the RSC is called "Playing Shakespeare".
It's fun to see McKellan, Stewart, Kingsley, Dench, and Ashcroft in 1982.
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billyweeds
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 6:40 pm Reply with quote
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Also saw The Guest with Dan Stevens of Downton Abbey fame as a stranger who claims to be the army buddy of the deceased son/brother of a family. It's a sorta gripping, rather silly movie, but fun while it lasts, with a ridiculous ending.
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marantzo
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I saw a good movie today. Actually a very good movie. Moana. Have any of you seen it? It is worth seeing!

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marantzo wrote:
I saw a good movie today. Actually a very good movie. Moana. Have any of you seen it? It is worth seeing!


Yes, I have. In fact, I reviewed it in Current Film on Saturday.

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