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billyweeds

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 7:31 am

Joined: 20 May 2004 Posts: 20618 Location: New York City

Joe and I seem to be at odds on directors. My two favorites (with no visible third place) are Hitchcock and Wilder by miles and miles.

bartist

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 11:40 am

Joined: 27 Apr 2010 Posts: 6944 Location: Black Hills

I have a rough top five with Wilder, Hitch, Huston, Polanski, and maybe Wyler and Ford vying for a slot.

"Described-not-demonstrated" seemed unavoidable in Sunset Blvd, so I didn't mind it.

Still haven't cracked open Hulu, but hope to soon. Our porch was condemned, so that's set us back a bit in terms of leisure.

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Syd

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 12:54 pm

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I have Hitchcock, Spielberg, Kurosawa and Lang vying for the top. Possibly Keaton, too.

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billyweeds

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:14 pm

Joined: 20 May 2004 Posts: 20618 Location: New York City

Syd wrote:

I have Hitchcock, Spielberg, Kurosawa and Lang vying for the top. Possibly Keaton, too.

If we're going foreign then Truffaut definitely gets my #3 spot, with Keaton a very possible #4.

Joe Vitus

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 4:36 pm

Joined: 20 May 2004 Posts: 14498 Location: Houston

billyweeds wrote:

Joe and I seem to be at odds on directors. My two favorites (with no visible third place) are Hitchcock and Wilder by miles and miles.

As long as you don't start making recurring comments about how any Billy Wilder film is like cunnilingas...

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billyweeds

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 4:56 pm

Joined: 20 May 2004 Posts: 20618 Location: New York City

Joe Vitus wrote:

billyweeds wrote:

Joe and I seem to be at odds on directors. My two favorites (with no visible third place) are Hitchcock and Wilder by miles and miles.

As long as you don't start making recurring comments about how any Billy Wilder film is like cunnilingas...

Sorry, but I don't begin to get this reference. Please explain, and fast!

jeremy

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 8:18 pm

Joined: 21 May 2004 Posts: 6794 Location: Derby, England and Hamilton, New Zealand (yes they are about 12,000 miles apart)

In the modern era: The Coens, Scorsese, Gilliam (who unfortunately is becoming synonymous with ambitious failures and bad luck) Ridley Scott, both Andersons.

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bartist

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 8:56 pm

Joined: 27 Apr 2010 Posts: 6944 Location: Black Hills

billyweeds wrote:

Joe Vitus wrote:

billyweeds wrote:

Joe and I seem to be at odds on directors. My two favorites (with no visible third place) are Hitchcock and Wilder by miles and miles.

As long as you don't start making recurring comments about how any Billy Wilder film is like cunnilingas...

Sorry, but I don't begin to get this reference. Please explain, and fast!

This might reference the Hitchcock film/BJ analogy that caused a bit of jousting earlier.

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gromit

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 10:35 pm

Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 9008 Location: Shanghai

DeSica, Lang, Renoir, Bunuel, Chaplin ...

As for Jeremy's Modern Era -- I'd certainly have Woody Allen and Guy Maddin on my list.
MA = post-1970?

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billyweeds

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 10:53 pm

Joined: 20 May 2004 Posts: 20618 Location: New York City

bartist wrote:

billyweeds wrote:

Joe Vitus wrote:

billyweeds wrote:

Joe and I seem to be at odds on directors. My two favorites (with no visible third place) are Hitchcock and Wilder by miles and miles.

As long as you don't start making recurring comments about how any Billy Wilder film is like cunnilingas...

Sorry, but I don't begin to get this reference. Please explain, and fast!

This might reference the Hitchcock film/BJ analogy that caused a bit of jousting earlier.

Aaaah. Sweet release!

whiskeypriest

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 9:23 am

Joined: 20 May 2004 Posts: 6916 Location: "It's a Dry Heat."

billyweeds wrote:

Joe and I seem to be at odds on directors. My two favorites (with no visible third place) are Hitchcock and Wilder by miles and miles.

My sentiments exactly. I will note, though, that Hitch made "bad" movies pretty much only by comparison to his other movies, Wilder made some plain bad movies, especially at the end of his career. Buddy, Buddy is excerable, and his version of The Front Page is easily the worst of the four (that I have seen) versions of that play. One, Two, Three was unfunnily frenetic. But I forgive him all for the moment Fran Kubelick tells C. C. Baxter to shut up and deal. And the salesclerk leans into Joe Gillis to tell him, as long as the lady is paying for it, why not take the vicuna, and makes his status abundantly clear in an instant. Or not just the great last line, but Lemmon's reaction to it at the end of Some Like it Hot.

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whiskeypriest

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 9:25 am

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billyweeds wrote:

Joe Vitus wrote:

billyweeds wrote:

Joe and I seem to be at odds on directors. My two favorites (with no visible third place) are Hitchcock and Wilder by miles and miles.

As long as you don't start making recurring comments about how any Billy Wilder film is like cunnilingas...

Sorry, but I don't begin to get this reference. Please explain, and fast!

Unlike bad blow jobs, I actually have experience with bad cunnilingus. Or, at least, being told I should probably stop.

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billyweeds

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 1:19 pm

Joined: 20 May 2004 Posts: 20618 Location: New York City

whiskeypriest wrote:

billyweeds wrote:

Joe and I seem to be at odds on directors. My two favorites (with no visible third place) are Hitchcock and Wilder by miles and miles.

My sentiments exactly. I will note, though, that Hitch made "bad" movies pretty much only by comparison to his other movies...

Not quite true. I submit Torn Curtain, Topaz, and The Paradine Case. But you're totally right about Buddy Buddy. Also Avanti!

whiskeypriest

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 6:54 pm

Joined: 20 May 2004 Posts: 6916 Location: "It's a Dry Heat."

Paradine Case is the paradigm case. If it were merely Hitchockian, rather than Hitchcock, it would get more of a pass than it does.

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Joe Vitus

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 10:29 am

Joined: 20 May 2004 Posts: 14498 Location: Houston

I think Hitchcock is much more consistently entertaining that Wilder. It's interesting that two of the three bad Hitchcock movies Billy cites are late-career entries. Everyone falls off eventually (he came back to form well enough for me with his final movie, Family Plot). Wilder is really hit or miss, which might have something to do with his genre-jumping or might not.

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