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A Man Escaped is the true story of a resistance leader who escaped from a the very secure Montluc prison in 1943. It's based on the memoir by André Devigny, although the character in the movie is named Fontaine. The movie begins with our hero on his way to prison, takes us to the escape, and is sharply focused on Fontaine's determination to escape using the few tools available, patiently manufacturing most of them by hand. Unearthly patiently, considering prisoners are being executed and he will likely be one of them.
Filmed using a severely minimalist approach by Robert Bresson using non-actors, and this time that approach really worked for me. It comes off as a prison break procedural in the sense other movies are police procedurals. It would seem you wouldn't have that much character development, but it's surprising how much you learn about the man from his determination and resourcefulness. I found the whole thing thoroughly absorbing. |
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| Joe Vitus |
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whiskeypriest wrote: I mean, I thought I was intending to respond to a snarky personal insult from you. Go figure.
Your point is those who "service" may not have a great time, but those serviced are always happy--and that as a gay man I wouldn't have experience with both. That's pretty low. |
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| billyweeds |
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Joe Vitus wrote: whiskeypriest wrote: I mean, I thought I was intending to respond to a snarky personal insult from you. Go figure.
Your point is those who "service" may not have a great time, but those serviced are always happy--and that as a gay man I wouldn't have experience with both. That's pretty low.
My take was that he meant you would have experience with both rather than the "non-gay" person who would only get serviced rather than do the servicing. Still pretty low, but in a different way. |
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| bartist |
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| Samantha Barks is wonderful. |
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bartist wrote: Samantha Barks is wonderful.
I agree, but in the present context it sounds like she ggh. |
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| Syd |
| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 8:12 pm |
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Paris Was a Woman takes place before Ms./Mr. Hilton's sex-change operation.
This is the story of the female side of the Left Bank art scene, particularly the lesbian side. This naturally contains a lot of footage of Gertrude Stein and Alice B. Toklas, Janet Flanner (bisexual and a New Yorker correspondent for 40 years), Colette (who was apparently bisexual and used to be one of my cats), Djuna Barnes, the norious Natalie Barney, and bookstore owners/lovers Adrienne Monnier and Sylvia Beach.
Monnier introduced the lending library concept to Paris. Her store catered more to the French, while Beach catered to the English and American expatriates. Their stores were on opposite sides of the same street. Beach published James Joyce's Ulysses when it still couldn't be published in English speaking countries, and was screwed when Joyce signed on with another publisher. (We only get Beach's side of this; Joyce does seem to have been a jerk, but he was going to have a hard time reaching a mass audience through Beach's Shakespeare and Company. Beach was pretty much bankrupted by this episode.)
Since this is a lesbian-oriented documentary, you don't get much of the male side of the art scene. (You don't get Anais Nin, either, although she was in Paris a lot of this time.) I liked a lot of it, including the interviews with Sylvia Beach. I think I would have liked her and Monnier. Lots of very good footage of Paris before World War II; it made me hunger to go there if I could find a time machine or star in a Woody Allen movie. |
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| Joe Vitus |
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billyweeds wrote: Joe Vitus wrote: whiskeypriest wrote: I mean, I thought I was intending to respond to a snarky personal insult from you. Go figure.
Your point is those who "service" may not have a great time, but those serviced are always happy--and that as a gay man I wouldn't have experience with both. That's pretty low.
My take was that he meant you would have experience with both rather than the "non-gay" person who would only get serviced rather than do the servicing. Still pretty low, but in a different way.
Possibly. I really don't know how an adult with multiple experiences would not get that blow jobs can be pretty variable, but I was exaggerating in my original post for humor, and I thought my joke was harmless; at least it was intended harmlessly. I thought the reply was anything but. |
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I figure that a blow job would not be pleasant if teeth were too much involved.
Meanwhile, I'm reviewing lesbian films, sometimes, since I let Leigh share my Netflix inbox. The Paris film was interesting. |
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| Joe Vitus |
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| Can't be sure if the last lesbian movie I saw was Lianna or The Hunger. Joke. Actually, the superb Persian movie Circumstance, set in Iran but actually filmed in Lebanon, is very much worth seeing. |
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| Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 8:18 am |
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As the saying goes, "There is no job like a blow job."
In my experience, I find many lesbians hate men, but I've never come across any gay men who didn't like women. When I lived in Greenwich Village I saw the difference between lesbians and gays. Of course some lesbians have nothing against men. When my late wife and I went to Greenwich Village when we were holidaying in NYC, I took her to my two favourite bars in the Village. We left one of them and were right across from a lesbian bar and dance place. She said that we should go their and see what it was like. NY had made a law that bars should not keep out women or men. We went there and the woman, butch, at the entrance said that it was a lesbian bar and we couldn't come in. I told her about the new law and she had to let us in. She was angry, but let us in. It was a Saturday and packed. A long bar that was filled, so we stood and ordered drinks. We watched the women dancing on a pretty big dance floor. A lot of them were attractive and some were just butch. Some women at the bar were looking at my wife with a sort of lust and looking at me with disgust.  ) When the dance was over some of the women came of the floor and a good looking lesbian came over to Shirley Anne and asked if she would dance with her, without looking at me at all. My wife asked me if she should dance with her. I said she could dance with her if she wanted to. She told the lesbian, "Thank you, but I don't want my husband to be alone at the bar." The lez walked away in a huff. For me the joint was not pleasant. My wife said, "Maybe we should go?" We went. (Of course I would have been very horny watching my wife dancing with that good looking lez.) )
We went walking around and came upon another dance bar and went in. Guess what. A gay joint. I asked one of the guys if it was OK that my wife is here. He said, "Of course not. Women can come here anytime. She's very pretty." We stayed, and watched the guys dancing and talking to the guys at the bar. Then Shirley Anne and I danced a few times. At the bar a lot of the guys talked to her about this and that. We had a good time. |
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| whiskeypriest |
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Joe Vitus wrote: whiskeypriest wrote: I mean, I thought I was intending to respond to a snarky personal insult from you. Go figure.
Your point is those who "service" may not have a great time, but those serviced are always happy--and that as a gay man I wouldn't have experience with both. That's pretty low. |
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Joe Vitus wrote: billyweeds wrote: Joe Vitus wrote: whiskeypriest wrote: I mean, I thought I was intending to respond to a snarky personal insult from you. Go figure.
Your point is those who "service" may not have a great time, but those serviced are always happy--and that as a gay man I wouldn't have experience with both. That's pretty low.
My take was that he meant you would have experience with both rather than the "non-gay" person who would only get serviced rather than do the servicing. Still pretty low, but in a different way.
Possibly. I really don't know how an adult with multiple experiences would not get that blow jobs can be pretty variable, but I was exaggerating in my original post for humor, and I thought my joke was harmless; at least it was intended harmlessly. I thought the reply was anything but. |
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Marantz,
Unfortunately, there are misogynistic gay men. One of the irritants at gay bars is that there are guys who just get surly if a woman shows up. Granted some women in gay bars can be obnoxious, but among straight men, gay women and gay men there are obnoxious people, too. It's about the personality not the gender. But there is a kind of gay man who judges a woman's personality entirely on her gender.
Having grown up in theater, one of the weirdest things to me when I came out was the antagonism in the LGBT community between gay men and lesbians. In every theater I'd ever worked in, every drama school I ever attended, the gays and lesbians had each others back. To find out there was all this hostility in the larger LGBT word surprised me--and struck me then and strikes me now as profoundly stupid. |
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Joe, I know you are right, I've worked with many gay men, and mostly we got along just fine. The gossip was good.  However there was one gay man I worked with that was so hostile, it practically rose off of him in waves.
So, in essence, there are all kinds, in both genders. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 10:41 pm |
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| Mitty, you'd think life was hard enough without picking out enemies for no reason, wouldn't you? Unfortunately among every kind of person, gay/straight, male/female and all the other combinations, there's always the potential to be an asshole. |
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