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| Joe Vitus |
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I really hated The Royal Tenenbaums, but then it was very Salingeresque and I can't stand Salinger. I think Moonrise Kingdom is the only Wes Anderson movie I've like.
Full confession: early in his career I thought Wes Anderson was the same person as Wes Craven. |
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| bartist |
| Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 9:56 am |
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| "Nightmare at the Tenenbaum House" |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:08 am |
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| "Last House on Tenenbaum Road" |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:14 am |
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| I was genuinely impressed with his range. *sigh* |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:36 am |
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Joe Vitus wrote: I can't stand Salinger.
Oops. I just noticed this. No. |
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| whiskeypriest |
| Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:49 am |
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| Catcher in the Rye is one of those things I try but sometikes fail to separate from the load of drck that has trailed in ots wake. |
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| bartist |
| Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 12:25 pm |
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| I was reading James Gleick's book on information theory and one of many things discussed is how about 50% of information in written words is redundant and not needed for understanding. Illustrated by the classic NYC ad, "If u cn rd ths sntnc..." So, just saying, if vowels give you trouble, u cn prbly gt lng wtht thm. |
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| whiskeypriest |
| Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 2:31 pm |
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| Do hou have an issue with my vowel movements? |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:00 pm |
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whiskeypriest wrote: Catcher in the Rye is one of those things I try but sometikes fail to separate from the load of drck that has trailed in ots wake.
Don't agree. The "Nine Stories" which preceded Catcher are mostly brilliant and the only loser afterwards was "Seymour: An Introduction." It was lame. But "Raise High the Roof Beam, Carpenters," and "Franny and Zooey" are marvelous. IMO. |
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| Joe Vitus |
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I think he's a terrible writer, not because he writes terrible prose, the prose is fine, but because his characters are shallow, solipsistic and self-important. He has a bright 15 year old's take on life, and I think his philosophy is utterly worthless to anyone who is beyond puberty.
IMO, of course.
And Anderson suffers from the same failings. He thinks his characters and his screen compositions are so adorably eccentric. He's so pleased with himself, and they are so pleased with themselves. It's grating. |
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| whiskeypriest |
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billyweeds wrote: whiskeypriest wrote: Catcher in the Rye is one of those things I try but sometikes fail to separate from the load of drck that has trailed in ots wake.
Don't agree. The "Nine Stories" which preceded Catcher are mostly brilliant and the only loser afterwards was "Seymour: An Introduction." It was lame. But "Raise High the Roof Beam, Carpenters," and "Franny and Zooey" are marvelous. IMO. |
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Joe Vitus wrote: I think he's a terrible writer, not because he writes terrible prose, the prose is fine, but because his characters are shallow, solipsistic and self-important. He has a bright 15 year old's take on life, and I think his philosophy is utterly worthless to anyone who is beyond puberty.
IMO, of course.
And Anderson suffers from the same failings. He thinks his characters and his screen compositions are so adorably eccentric. He's so pleased with himself, and they are so pleased with themselves. It's grating.
Now that you frame it that way, I can at least partially agree with you. Salinger's characters can be obnoxiously preppy, too. |
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| Joe Vitus |
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| jeremy |
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| Tenenbaums gets my vote. |
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| Syd |
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Miracle of the White Stallions was a favorite of mine when I was a kid and, although the years and my growing up haven't been kind to it, I still enjoy watching the beautiful horses (which are really light gray) promenade and dance. Robert Taylor plays Col. Alois Podhajsky (called "Louis" by his wife), head of the Spanish Riding School in Vienna (and Bronze medalist in the 1936 Olympics), who made heroic efforts to save the Lippezan stallions and later the mares, in an effort to keep the breed alive. Taylor really isn't very good (I've heard him referred to as 'Robot Taylor,' but we do have Lilli Palmer, Eddie Albert and especially Curt Jürgens in support, with James Franciscus likable as a young American officer. The horses, however, are largely interchangeable. I'd forgotten that Lippezans start off dark-colored; the gray ones change color as they get older.
Horse choreography was directed by the real Col. Alois Podhajsky. There are a lot of exciting scenes where the horses' train gets strafed (probably more exciting than real life), and a major battle scene, which makes me wonder if Louis should show a more concern for the humans in the story. The big battle scene is to rescue 2000 prisoners of war, but the 1000 horses rescued (mostly not Lippezans) are the ones we're supposed to cheer for. I must admit it's a good rescue. As near as I can tell, no horses get injured, but lots of humans do. |
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