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| billyweeds |
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marantzo wrote: I saw Suddenly quite a while ago. I liked it when I saw it, I think. 
Crossfire was very good and I liked all the actors except Robert Young whom I have never liked. He was even worse when he went off the booze. 
Wasn't aware he ever went off the booze. Noted for being the worst drunk in Hollywood, and I never heard about any recovery attempt. |
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| carrobin |
| Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 3:37 pm |
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| I never knew that about Robert Young. He certainly had a long career, for someone with that kind of problem. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 3:47 pm |
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billyweeds wrote: marantzo wrote: I saw Suddenly quite a while ago. I liked it when I saw it, I think.
Crossfire was very good and I liked all the actors except Robert Young whom I have never liked. He was even worse when he went off the booze.
Wasn't aware he ever went off the booze. Noted for being the worst drunk in Hollywood, and I never heard about any recovery attempt.
He was off the booze when he was the father in Father Knows Best. When the series was over, the guy who played his son was interviewed and he hated Young. He said that Young was always criticizing him and telling him not to do this or not to do that, (nothing that had anything to do with the series). He said Young was nicer before he quit drinking. |
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| carrobin |
| Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 4:09 pm |
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| The son was Billy Gray. As a pre-teen, I had rather a crush on him. |
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| gromit |
| Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 4:29 pm |
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Suddenly isn't bad.
It never really comes together enough.
And the way they thwart the bad guys is a little pat.
But there is some good tension and Sinatra does fine enough.
It's sort of a variation on The Petrified Forest. Well, I guess there have been a number of films of gunmen holding some people hostage in a room.
Remember folks: bind and gag is the way to go.
not really worth going out of your way for, but Suddenly is a solid enough cable watch. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 4:36 pm |
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Yeah, that's his name. I couldn't remember it. He was always sullen on the show and I liked that. It was the only actual role of a real family. He really liked Jane Wyatt. She treated him very well. In real life he did smoke grass once in a while. 
I used to listen to FKB on the radio before it was on TV. I liked the radio series better than the TV series. |
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| gromit |
| Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 1:09 am |
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I thought I'd wake up to a raging discussion of Menlimontant!
Realized that the three noirsih films I watched online -- Inner Sanctum, Impact and Suddenly -- all revolve around a murder and a fugitive from the big city invading the sleepy peace of a small town. In Inner Sanctum and Suddenly, it's a killer from the city on the loose. In Impact, the city fella is just accused of murder but really innocent.
I guess it's been talked about frequently for noirs and post-war films: fear of the unknown and fear of the big city and its corruption, that small town life isn't immune from the encroaching violent and dangerous world, etc.
One thing I meant to add about Suddenly.
It's not a subtle film, but it does make the valuable point that war turns men into killers, and those killers then have to be reintegrated into normal society. It tries to mitigate this message by insisting that Sinatra was an aberration and removed from the military. But Sterling Hayden's sheriff/authority figure admits that he had seen other men in the military who also enjoyed killing. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 1:27 am |
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marantzo wrote: Yeah, that's his name. I couldn't remember it. He was always sullen on the show and I liked that. It was the only actual role of a real family. He really liked Jane Wyatt. She treated him very well. In real life he did smoke grass once in a while.
I used to listen to FKB on the radio before it was on TV. I liked the radio series better than the TV series.
I've always heard that Young was a son of a bitch, Wyatt was very nice, and Gray was cool. He got too cool for school later and was better known for his out-of-control drug abuse. In other words, "he did smoke grass once in a while." |
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| gromit |
| Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 11:05 am |
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The File on Thelma Jordan is a pretty solid noir. In the Stanwyck Double Indemnity mode. Stanwyck informs an assistant DA that somebody has tried to rob her rich old aunt. She winds up having an affair with the married asst. DA. Then the old aunt is plugged during a robbery. She's charged with murder; he's charged with prosecuting her. A pretty good set-up, and they even pull a few good law tricks during the trial.
The film has a good pace and is pretty intriguing.
I wasn't terribly fond of the 3 or 4 endings they crammed into the final 8 minutes. But for the first hour and a half I was right there with it.
Good film. |
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| Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 11:32 am |
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gromit wrote: The File on Thelma Jordan is a pretty solid noir. In the Stanwyck Double Indemnity mode. Stanwyck informs an assistant DA that somebody has tried to rob her rich old aunt. She winds up having an affair with the married asst. DA. Then the old aunt is plugged during a robbery. She's charged with murder; he's charged with prosecuting her. A pretty good set-up, and they even pull a few good law tricks during the trial.
The film has a good pace and is pretty intriguing.
I wasn't terribly fond of the 3 or 4 endings they crammed into the final 8 minutes. But for the first hour and a half I was right there with it.
Good film.
This is so picky that I almost hesitate to mention it, but as the resident anal retentive person I have to state publicly that the correct title is The File on Thelma Jordon. Yes, "Jordon" is spelled with an "O." This may have been a mistake originally, but facts are facts. |
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| Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 3:21 pm |
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"Menlimontant" was lovely, and a pleasure to watch, but I was annoyed by the heroine's passiveness. I do give it a break for being too early a film to criticize for cliches, but I did want to kick her a couple of times. (A desire that I get when watching many movies, I admit.)
Without the usual TCM noirs and such this morning, I was checking the Showtime varieties that Time Warner Cable is giving me for $3 a month at the moment, and found something called "Hi-Life." I caught the tail end of the titles, which were cute, and it started out with Charles Durning and Peter Riegert at a bar, so I decided to give it a chance. It turned out to be a sort of cynical rom-com with Campbell Scott and Eric Stoltz and (almost a cameo) Daryl Hannah. Interesting characters, some uneasy suspense (a gun with one bullet is involved), some wry laughs, and a happy ending. Thumbs up. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 3:54 pm |
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| If anyone on here hasn't seen All Quiet on the Western Front, it is on TCM tonight at 8 pm EST. It is a terrific movie. I've seen it a number of times. (even better than The English Patient) |
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| Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 11:00 pm |
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In Barking Dogs Never Bite, a mild mannered young South Korean professoral candidate is forced by circumstances to become a serial dog killer. He needs to eliminate a barking dog so he can stay awake long enough to get the professorship. Unfortunately it takes awhile before he can locate the offending canine. Meanwhile, he is witnessed and pursued by a young female amateur detective, there is a janitor quite willing to dispose of bodies by making dog soup, and the building is haunted by the ghost of Boiler Kim, who was murdered while inspecting the plumbing and was interred in the walls.
Lumpy film, the first directed by Joon-Ho Bong: it has some very nice scenes. I like the one where the sad fate of Boiler Kim is narrated (despite that scene having no payoff), or the girl rescuing a dog while crowds of people on rooftops are cheering her on. Overall, though, it's a first effort by a director who was still learning his craft, and you're much better off seeing his second film, Memories of Murder, which is a masterpiece. |
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| Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 1:20 am |
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The Spectacular Now has more depth and content than most movies about teenagers and yet I thought it was somewhat overrated.
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 6:28 am |
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Ghulam wrote: .
The Spectacular Now has more depth and content than most movies about teenagers and yet I thought it was somewhat overrated.
Disagree completely and vehemently. No Oscar nominations or even consideration for this remarkably sensitive and beautifully acted film is the essence of "underrated." Miles Teller and Shailene Woodley act the pants off nominees Christian Bale and Amy Adams just for starters, and there are few supporting performances as good as Kyle Chandler's--certainly not Bradley Cooper's or Michael Fassbender's. No, The Spectacular Now is the very opposite of overrated.
(As an aside, Chandler enhances his credentials with his superb performance in The Wolf of Wall Street. He's one of my new favorite film actors.) |
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