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jeremy
Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 6:39 am Reply with quote
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Didn't see FF4 or 5, maybe 6 is a return to form.

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bartist
Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 10:30 am Reply with quote
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What is likeable about Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey?

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carrobin
Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 1:21 pm Reply with quote
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Last night TCM showed "Rollerball," which I'd never been interested in until I saw their promo for it. The plot is intriguing--a future in which corporations run the world and everyone is "taken care of," with a globally popular violent sport that helps them release their less sociable emotions. James Caan is remarkably cool as the Rollerball champion who is informed by a corporation executive that he must retire, since the corporation directors are ready for a change in the action. He doesn't want to retire, so things get rough. Anyway, this morning TCM showed "The Man Who Could Work Miracles," a British flick with Roland Young as the meek everyman who is suddenly blessed with the power to do and have everything he wants. At first he wants to help everyone, prevent war, heal all diseases--but as he encounters advisors, he decides to bring in all the wise and powerful people on earth and get them to come up with the solution. Of course that doesn't turn out well.

Anyway, besides the surprising and welcome presence of Ralph Richardson in both films, I found the concept of world peace as a problematic condition rather interesting. Although I did think that if the miracle power had been given to a woman instead of a man, things might have turned out better. Or maybe not.
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Syd
Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 12:18 am Reply with quote
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Okay, okay, je ne touche pas au grisbi already, if you're going to be that way about it. Sheesh!

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Syd
Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 1:05 am Reply with quote
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Who does René Dary remind me of in this film? Not William Powell, but an actor who played a sidekick or the guy who loses the girl to William Powell, from the same time period.

EDIT: Nope. I turn on the TV and there he is. Robert Donat in "The 39 Steps."


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Befade
Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 3:19 pm Reply with quote
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A very overlooked film: The Bling Ring by Sophia Coppola brings to life the attitude of teenagers to our culture of consumption and celebrity. Based on actual events in Beverly Hills the Bling Ring is a group of fearless teenagers who break into their celebrity idol's homes and play act....and leave with whatever high end designer goods that take their fancy......And get away with it for over a year. Breaking into Paris Hilton's home 6 times.

This is scary stuff....because it reflects what's really important to a lot of people in this country.

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Joe Vitus
Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 4:51 pm Reply with quote
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Sophia Coppola condemning an obsession with celebrities and material consumption is like Hugh Hefner condemning centerfolds and promiscuity.

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marantzo
Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:50 pm Reply with quote
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Befade wrote:
A very overlooked film: The Bling Ring by Sophia Coppola brings to life the attitude of teenagers to our culture of consumption and celebrity. Based on actual events in Beverly Hills the Bling Ring is a group of fearless teenagers who break into their celebrity idol's homes and play act....and leave with whatever high end designer goods that take their fancy......And get away with it for over a year. Breaking into Paris Hilton's home 6 times.

This is scary stuff....because it reflects what's really important to a lot of people in this country.


I read a few reviews of The Bling Ring and they were all favourable, and I intended to see it when it got here, but it ran for one or two weeks and left so I never did get to see it.
Syd
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:39 am Reply with quote
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The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari. Finally saw this and it's even better than I was expecting. It's amazing how all the weird sets, skewed perspectives, acting, makeup, etc. all work together to make an effective, mad film. Directors have been borrowing from this for almost a hundred years, and will be borrowing for a hundred more.

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jeremy
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 2:39 am Reply with quote
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In coordination with the release Lovelace, the Linda Lovelace biopic, Foxtel screened Deep Throat, the film that made her famous. Made in 1972, “Deep Throat” became a major cultural phenomenon; scandalising many, but also generating a wider interest in pornography, in a trend that came to be known as porn chic. I am old enough to remember the frisson and furore surrounding the film. I can also recollect seeing the name ‘proudly’ displayed on the sign boards of some of London’s less salubrious cinemas. I knew Deep Throat was about sex, but in those more reticent times, the mainstream media steered clear of explaining the title or the premise in any detail. As an increasingly aware eleven year old, I knew just enough to know not to ask mum; neither of us would have been comfortable discussing it. If I’d been a few years younger, I’d have probably come straight out and asked: “Mum, what does deep throat mean?” Unfortunately, my big brother, who had previously been my interpreter of the adult world – one kick for shut-up idiot - had already flown the family nest to go to college.

Why am I telling you this? Perhaps I'm keen for you to believe that the main reason I took this opportunity to watch some 70s porn was just to tie-up some cultural loose ends and not…Yes, it did have an indifferent, jazz-funk soundtrack. Regardless, because Saturday’s showing of Deep Throat clashed with the football, I only popped my head around the metaphorical bedroom door at half-time and when the action began to wilt…and vice versa…which was a bit of pain because I had to enter the ‘no kids allowed’ passcode each time. 0,0,0,0, if you want to watch some pay-per-view at my place.

Despite the fact that Deep Throat was openly shown at ‘certain’ cinemas in seventies Britain (albeit unrated) I was still surprised at how tame it seemed - it was barely more explicit than a Miley Cyrus video. I know times have changed, but I strongly suspect that Foxtel must have been showing a heavily censored version. As you would expect, the film was relentless, one note, poorly acted and cheaply shot – I’m glad that I only found time for the highlights. Although, again surprisingly, I noted that it was slightly comic to the point of being a knowing self-parody (though I’d guess you could say that about a lot of porn.)

Latterly, Ms Lovelace (Linda Boreman) has claimed that her abusive husband coerced her into making the Deep Throat, for which ‘he’ was paid $1,250 (the film went on to make hundreds of million dollars for its producers). Discomfittingly, she further suggests that those who view the film are witnessing her rape. I understand that these issues are addressed in the new film Lovelace. Linda Boreman has since gone on to be an anti-porn campaigner. Regardless, and however self-serving and convenient, I was struck by how one of the themes of “Deep Throat” was a seemingly modern emphasis on the need for a woman to be sexually satisfied. My feeling is that this was not something that was openly discussed at the time – the British version of Cosmopolitan didn’t come out until 1972 and the Hite Report wasn’t published until 1976. Society and feminism in particular, are still grappling with the dichotomy over to what extent pornography can be empowering as opposed to purely exploitative. I guess it depends.

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bartist
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:33 am Reply with quote
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Despite the fact that Deep Throat was openly shown at ‘certain’ cinemas in seventies Britain (albeit unrated) I was still surprised at how tame it seemed - it was barely more explicit than a Miley Cyrus video. I know times have changed, but I strongly suspect that Foxtel must have been showing a heavily censored version....


I suspect you suspect correctly. The cut that I saw in the 70's was quite explicit.
And, in spite of the possible blow (NPI) struck for women's sexual satisfaction, quite sad and exploitative. I've never cared much for porn, which could mean either I've only seen bad porn, or that I just don't "like to watch."

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jeremy
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:48 am Reply with quote
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I was trying really hard to avoid the words blow, sucks, flop...

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knox
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:59 am Reply with quote
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You mostly succeeded, except perhaps for "loose ends." Or I'm just one to find sexual innuendos in almost anything.

James Cameron is foaming at the mouth now, about a matter of some gravity...

http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3252018/james-cameron-says-gravity-is-the-best-space-film-ever/


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carrobin
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:22 am Reply with quote
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For a few years when I worked for the film class, we had a porn film each semester. They were pretty well done--my favorite was replete with Gilbert & Sullivan music. (The guest I took to it loved the "Titwillow" bit.) A producer named Gerard D'Amanio (something like that) was a guest at class and talked about the business--I think he had something to do with "Deep Throat" as well, though we never saw that one. I found the movies interesting (and educational), but they didn't make me want to see any more.

"Gravity" sounds awesome, literally. And Clooney? I'm so there.
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bartist
Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 6:27 pm Reply with quote
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I can sort of see a "Mikado" based porn film, given some of the character names (Yum Yum springs to mind). And the name of the town.

Yeah, Cameron is over the moon (NPI) about "Gravity." Clooney for Carrobin, Bullock for me, and really good space photography for Cameron.

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