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Syd
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:14 pm Reply with quote
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Joe Vitus wrote:
I get the "lead character killed off" shock, but Norman Bates doesn't kill men so he's not a threat to you. What's to be frightened of? You could take a shower in the Bates Motel every night and nothing would happen to you.


You'd better not take the stairs, though. (Norman's killed two guys we know of, the detective and his mother's boyfriend. And nobody knows how many women.)

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Syd
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:23 pm Reply with quote
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I take that back. Norman has four known female victims to his credit, his mother, Marion and a couple of other women he was attracted to.

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Joe Vitus
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:26 pm Reply with quote
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billyweeds wrote:
Joe Vitus wrote:
I get the "lead character killed off" shock, but Norman Bates doesn't kill men so he's not a threat to you. What's to be frightened of? You could take a shower in the Bates Motel every night and nothing would happen to you.


Are you kidding? Because by this logic, nothing violent in a movie could ever scare me unless it was perpetrated on a male senior citizen living in New York City.


Totally serious. If you know the big bad doesn't attack dudes, why would you feel threatened?


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Joe Vitus
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:27 pm Reply with quote
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Syd wrote:
Joe Vitus wrote:
I get the "lead character killed off" shock, but Norman Bates doesn't kill men so he's not a threat to you. What's to be frightened of? You could take a shower in the Bates Motel every night and nothing would happen to you.


You'd better not take the stairs, though. (Norman's killed two guys we know of, the detective and his mother's boyfriend. And nobody knows how many women.)


Yeah, but unlike the women, they provoked him. A man just stopping off at the Bates Motel isn't in any danger. I get why a woman would freak out watching the movie, even today. It suggests the seemingly most innocuous man might suddenly attack you, and at the moment you are most vulnerable.

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Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:52 pm Reply with quote
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The shower scene in Psycho announced to the world that we are totally vulnerable in a shower, and many people were scared out of taking showers forever.
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Joe Vitus
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I didn't say that wasn't the response. I said I don't get it.

I was never afraid of Michael Meyers in Halloween, either. There was a scene early on where a kid ran into him and he let him go. Michael didn't hurt kids so I wasn't afraid of him.

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billyweeds wrote:
Joe Vitus wrote:
I get the "lead character killed off" shock, but Norman Bates doesn't kill men so he's not a threat to you. What's to be frightened of? You could take a shower in the Bates Motel every night and nothing would happen to you.


Are you kidding? Because by this logic, nothing violent in a movie could ever scare me unless it was perpetrated on a male senior citizen living in New York City.


I was totally on board with the utopia in "Logan's Run" until I turned 30.

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Syd
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:24 am Reply with quote
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Jiro Dreams of Sushi is a movie about an 85-year old sushi legend still hard at work, and his two sons, the younger of whom has his own restaurant, the older of whom, Yoshikazu, has worked under his father for thirty years and is his heir, and a sushi master in his own right. In fact, when Jiro's got it's three-star (tops) rating from Michelin, it was the son who produced the sushi.

The film has some points of interest. Particularly good is the sequence showing Yoshikazu at the market choosing his ingredients from sellers who are experts in their own right. (Yoshikazu took over buying the ingredients when his father had a heart attack at the age of 70--in the fish market.) A floor of whole tuna on display is a really striking image.

I had the problem throughout that I'm not really into sushi, and there really isn't enough depth in the portrait of the men. Oddly, I found Yoshikazu more interesting than his father. But: are any of these people married? Does Jiro have more than two children? Does he have any grandchildren to inherit from Yoshikazu? What happens to the leftovers?When Jiro dreams of sushi, does he dream of octopuses and does Cthulhu make a cameo? All these questions remain unanswered.

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knox
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:39 am Reply with quote
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My dislike of sushi was an insurmountable barrier to seeing the movie.
You are adventurous in your viewing choices.

Sounds like Wallace Shawn translates Norwegian even though he doesn't speak Norwegian....somehow I find this whole project kind of funny:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/29/movies/wallace-shawn-and-andre-gregory-tackle-ibsen.html?_r=0
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marantzo
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Not a sushi fan either. Don't hate it but when anyone asks me, "Should we get some sushi?" my answer is always, "No." From what I seem to find is that women are more sushi lovers than men. Like men are more steak lovers than women.
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Joe Vitus wrote:
...Norman Bates doesn't kill men so he's not a threat to you.




Also, as the sheriff informs us in both novel and movie, Norma Bates' boyfriend was poisoned along with her, presumably by Norman, unless one of the Blackwoods from Shirley Jackson's masterpiece "We Have Always Lived in the Castle" made a road trip.

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Very effective imagery, sir. But, again, those were rare specific attacks based on a threat. Every woman who checked into the Bates Motel was in danger. The males guests? Not a one.

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Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 5:49 pm Reply with quote
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marantzo wrote:
Not a sushi fan either. Don't hate it but when anyone asks me, "Should we get some sushi?" my answer is always, "No." From what I seem to find is that women are more sushi lovers than men. Like men are more steak lovers than women.


It's funny...my ex-wife was the steak lover and I was more the semi-vegetarian granolahead. But I never warmed to sushi - more of a breaded fish/shrimp guy. Every so often I break my vows, just to thwart the sin of pride, e.g. when my daughter does corned beef/cabbage on St. Patrick's day.

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I'll eat almost anything. I'm a human garbage can. But I draw the line at sushi. Hatehatehate it.
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Sonny, true love is the greatest thing in the world - except for a nice MLT - mutton, lettuce and tomato sandwich, where the mutton is nice and lean and the tomato is ripe.
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