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| gromit |
Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 9:03 am |
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Some background reading that fits right in with Putin's Kiss -- detailing his authoritarianism, paranoia and penchant for tight control:
Quote: Medvedev is ‘dead man walking’ as Putin undoes his Russian reforms
By Marc Bennetts - Special to The Washington Times
Monday, March 4, 2013
MOSCOW — Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev, once one of Russia’s most popular leaders, is now politically a “dead man walking” as his former mentor, President Vladimir Putin, undermines him, leading many to predict that the ruthless president is preparing to dump his reform-minded protege.
Mr. Medvedev, 47, was always the junior partner in the Kremlin duo with Mr. Putin, the 60-year-old former KGB officer. They even traded the top government spots so Mr. Putin could remain in power.
But somewhere between Mr. Medvedev’s term as president from 2008 to 2012 and Mr. Putin’s return to the presidency in May, the political romance faded.
Mr. Putin has been reversing Mr. Medvedev’s reforms, making slander a crime again and imposing Kremlin control over the direct election of Russian governors. Meanwhile, the pro-Putin state-controlled media ignores the prime minister or carries negative stories about him.
Analysts generally agree that Mr. Medvedev’s dismissal and political obscurity are imminent.
But Mr. Medvedev proved too independent for Mr. Putin, who served as prime minister during his presidency. Mr. Putin, president from 2000 to 2008, could not seek a third consecutive term under the Russian Constitution and tapped Mr. Medvedev to be a place-holder until he could run again in 2012.
There also has been widespread speculation that Mr. Putin, who as president appoints the prime minister, could replace Mr. Medvedev with Sergei Shoigu, the newly installed and popular defense minister.
Quote: Mr. Putin’s irritation with Mr. Medvedev stems in part from his belief that the younger politician’s support for reforms as president gave birth to an anti-Putin movement. As prime minister late last year, Mr. Medvedev expressed public sympathy for Mr. Putin’s critics.
“Certain issues that are being voiced [by the opposition] are probably reasonable, and the authorities should take action on them,” Mr. Medvedev said.
Mr. Medvedev also spoke out for a milder handling of a feminist punk group whose anticlerical and anti-Putin prayer in a Moscow cathedral landed several of its members in jail last year. Mr. Putin accused the group of “undermining moral foundations” of Russia, but Mr. Medvedev criticized the court’s harshness in imposing a three-year sentence on the musicians.
Analysts also suggest that Mr. Medvedev’s dismissal would help Mr. Putin isolate high-level advocates of political, social and economic reform.
“A new element of the Kremlin’s strategy is to seek to discipline its own supporters and to weaken these groups in the elite in which Vladimir Putin has limited confidence,” Jadwiga Rogoza, an analyst at the Center for Eastern Studies, said in a report issued by the Warsaw-based think tank. “The Kremlin is starting to treat them as a group that will not necessarily support the president in the event of an escalation of problems and will rather try to build up its own political capital by playing on such instability.”
With Mr. Putin’s popularity falling slowly but steadily, Mr. Medvedev could be dismissed in a bid to boost the president’s declining approval ratings.
A poll released by the independent Levada Center last week indicated that only 32 percent of Russians would vote for Mr. Putin if presidential elections were held this month.
Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/mar/4/medvedev-dead-man-walking-putin-undoes-reforms/#ixzz2Mfow5mAL |
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| Joe Vitus |
Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 9:24 am |
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| Watched Putin's Kiss on your recommendation and liked it a lot, though the girl comes across to me as politically naive and so not the most interesting person to form a movie around. The situation is contemporary Russia is the more interesting story. |
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| gromit |
Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:06 am |
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Glad you saw and liked it.
I figured it'd be one of those films I mention that no one ever sees.
I thought it was interesting that Masha does seem so naive. I don't think Putin or any authoritarian gov't wants an informed citizenry. They prefer to manipulate, and to ensure their own indispensability.
In many ways, NASHI is part of the Putin cult, and has close ties to the Kremlin, formed largely as a counter to the orange revolution in Ukraine. Masha initially is all caught up in the virility and strength and dynamism of puny balding Putin.*
Masha depends upon Nashi founder Vasily Yakemenko in much the way Russia relies on Putin. To me, that was the crux of the film. That Russia itself is kind of an infantile naive striving democracy/dictatorship hybrid. That Masha = Contemporary Russia is the indictment.
My quibbles: I wish they had explored in more detail the benefits Masha got from Nashi, whether those were cut off, and how Masha was making a living now. And it would have been nice to know more about what the opposition wanted, instead of the single fact that they were agaisnt Putin's authoritarianism and the intimidation they faced. Sure I could look up Boris Nemtsov, but the doc could have had a brief 1or 2 minute segment in which some of the opposition explained what they wanted, their vision of society, and the dangers they foresaw from Putinism and its aftermath.
But it was a good doc and an interesting glimpse into Putin's Rush-i-ya.
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* Not since Mike Tyson's lisping high-pitched voice has there been such a delicious mismatch between physical appearance and personality type. I love seeing short balding Putin project a super-macho hyper-virile image. The stunts he gets up to, usually in the run-up to elections or big decisions, are hilariously contrived political theater.
If you're unfamiliar, he tends to swim across semi-frozen rivers, hang glide with a flock of migrating birds (apparently injuring himself on that one and then covering up the non-macho injury), scuba diving and discovering an ancient treasure carefully placed there for his finding, etc. Great stuff.
Often these events allow him to show off his hairy chest. |
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| Joe Vitus |
Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:36 pm |
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| Completely agree with everything you said. I guess the thing for me was partly that it was hard to read her. Did she ultimately make the choice she made out of conscience or convenience (seeing that she had no more upward mobility to expect in NASHI)? Does her support for the liberal journalists show she understands what they are fighting for or just that she can't separate her opinion of a person politically from who the person is to her personally? Maybe the issue wasn't that she wasn't interesting but that the documentary didn't explore the most interesting aspects of her situation. |
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| gromit |
Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:21 pm |
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I liked the ambiguity. I also think by the end of the film, Masha has left Nashi, but still hasn't given up Nashism.
(it's kind of amusing/chilling how close Nashi is to Nazi in English). That is, she's out of the movement but still has a good deal of their values instilled in her. She's still evolving. And she seems more loyal to people than a deep thinker about issues.
Also, sometimes the price of access to a particular person is that the portrayal be reasonably sympathetic. Meaning Masha's continued cooperation likely involves a degree of her approval/control. A number of conversations -- with her sister, her friend, the female journalist and with Oleg Kashin -- were clearly staged/re-created for the camera.
I would have liked a few more concrete details here and there.
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Here's an article about the attack on the journalist Oleg Kashin from that time: http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2010/11/06/the_horrible_truth_about_oleg_kashin
(you can just stop it from loading before the sign-in screen interrupts)
Quote: unlike the journalists who have been killed, attacked, or harrassed in Russia during the last decade, Kashin is not a fringe or opposition figure. When I first met him, in the winter of 2006, to interview him about the politics of young Russians -- his specialty -- he struck me as a Kremlin apologist. Kommersant is Russia's most prominent daily, a mainstream paper owned by Medvedev buddy and mining mogul Alisher Usmanov.
I was, of course, wrong about Kashin. He is not an apologist but is, in the best traditions of his generation, simply hard to categorize. He covers youth movements for his paper, and he is equally unsparing in his coverage of both the pro-Kremlin organizations, like Nashi and Molodaya Gvadia, and the opposition ones, like the Yabloko and Antifa movements.
In some ways, Russia is just different and hard to categorize.
Kind of a mish-mash authoritarian personality cult. Sort of a mafiaocracy or cleptocracy. Kind of reminds me of African countries, such as Moi's Kenya, Mobuto's Zaire, etc.
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Also, I've mentioned it before but if you want a glimpse into how weird things are in Russia, check out Pravda sometime. A lot of the articles start out fairly routine and then launch into bizarre conspiracy theories. There's a strong xenophobia, and a near-hysterical tone thrown in as well. It's pretty loopy. http://english.pravda.ru/
Just checked, and two of the featured articles today appear homophobic:
- Gays may shake up Russian-Polish relations
- US Same-sex couples looking for children in Russia and China |
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Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:07 pm |
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Here's some good Pravda fun:
Adopted children in US families become guinea pigs for drug companies
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American TV journalists of KMID channel while preparing a story about the death of the Russian child talked to a child psychologist and found that Risperdal is also often prescribed for common disorders of psychological development and ASD.
Adepts of the so-called Attachment Therapy recommend wrapping children in a carpet, and then sitting on them. Children are also kept under a cold shower for a long time, locked in a toilet and left without food for several days. Many "advanced" parents on the advice of psychologists come up with even more sophisticated methods, making, for example, children dig their own graves. All these savage practices are implemented by proponents of the attachment therapy as the best way to get children to be obedient and break their will.
Also read: Sadistic methods of raising children all the rage in USA
Sometimes this is not enough. For example, when the goal is to get the desired result, absolute submission, as quickly as possible, powerful psychotropic drugs can help. Last year, the U.S. General Accountability Office issued a report stating that adopted children are given strong psychotropic drugs ...
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Moldova facing new chaos
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Moldova, the country that has recently become the world record holder for anarchy, is in the midst of yet another political crisis.
I guess they've never heard of places such as Somalia, Afghanistan, Yemen or even Syria .... |
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Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 7:26 pm |
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Quote: Here's some good Pravda fun:
You have probably noticed that almost anything titled "Truth" or with the word in the title somewhere, tends to be lacking in it.
My parents never made me dig my own grave, but it was promised that I would be doing so if I played my Cheech and Chong LP on the stereo. I think they knew what they were doing. |
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| gromit |
Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:08 pm |
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Pravda sure goes in for sensationalism.
There was a link to a separate article alarmingly entitled "Sadistic Methods of Raising Children all the Rage in USA" but I didn't click through or supply the link.
I've been impressed by the articles that start out as standard journalistic reporting and then halfway through suddenly veer into sensationalism and wild conspiracy theories.
The article I linked to on Oleg Kashin referred to an article, not in Pravda, which declared that "tomorrow the West attacks Iran, and the next day foreign forces take over Russia." So the paranoid, xenophobic strain runs deep in Russia. |
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| gromit |
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:21 pm |
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billyweeds wrote: Meanwhile, Alessandra Stanley lowers her reputation by labeling "The Way You Look Tonight" a "sappy standard." What idiocy.
Off and on these days I listen to the Sun Ra Arkestra's arrangement of "The Way You Look Tonight" -- and it works well as a big band instrumental. |
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Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:27 pm |
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| Jack the Giant Slayer is very entertaining with an appealing lead couple and interesting names in the credit. If you ever wondered what the kid in About a Boy did when he grew up, now you know. |
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Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:06 am |
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Jack has one of the better false endings I've seen. That is, you have a scene which apparently resolves the film, but no...
The best I've seen is in American Dreamer, where the hero and heroine are united, the camera is panning to the sky--and a car pulls up, two hoodlums jump out and bundle our lovers into the car. I don't know how many people remember the film, but I always liked that moment. |
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Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 3:52 pm |
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I liked Am. Dreamer's false ending, and the concept of subverting expectations generally. Am torn between Oz and the Jack film this week. I think a film with Rachel Weisz AND Mila Kunis, who were so perfectly cast in Bartist's recent "Trapped in Elevator Fantasy," trumps everything - so probably off to see the wizard.
Anyone heard buzz about Dead Man Down? (not a hybrid of Dead Man Walking and Blackhawk Down, I trust...) |
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Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 4:08 pm |
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I had no interest in "Jack" until I found out Ewan McGregor is in it. Now I'm intrigued.
Just got my free copy of Entertainment Weekly, and thought the cover shot of Michael Douglas as Liberace and Matt Damon as his protege was some kind of joke. But no--it's the new Soderbergh movie, "Behind the Candelabra." Interesting casting. But they both look so pretty. |
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Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 4:08 pm |
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| Reading the article, I find that "Behind the Candelabra" is for HBO, in a couple of weeks. Movie studios rejected it as "too gay." |
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Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:09 am |
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| So...I guess it doesn't count as Soderbergh's "last film." |
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