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| bartist |
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Wes is pretty uneven, for me - love bottle Rocket and the Tenenbaums, but the rest....I think Joe's kid on the playground analogy has merit. OTOH, when he's good, I would agree with Marc that you can't fault his "artifice" any more than you fault Dali for being surreal.
Might wait on MK - I really HATE the "Peanuts" device in movies - I find it threadbare and unfunny. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:54 am |
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| The Steve Zissou movie was as close to unwatchable as movies get. I loved Rushmore and Tenenbaums. Haven't seen Moonrise but I certainly plan to. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:55 am |
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| It seems I've only seen one W. Anderson movie, Rushmore. I liked it. Didn't see it in a theatre, I saw it on TV. |
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| gromit |
| Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:46 am |
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I thought Life Aquatic was just completely dull; while Darjeeling Ltd. actively annoyed me.
Rushmore was okay, but turned out to be one of those films which surprises/puzzles me because it has attracted such a devoted following. Bottle Rocket showed promise.
Tenenbaums is pretty great. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:07 am |
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bartist wrote: Wes is pretty uneven, for me - love bottle Rocket and the Tenenbaums, but the rest....I think Joe's kid on the playground analogy has merit. OTOH, when he's good, I would agree with Marc that you can't fault his "artifice" any more than you fault Dali for being surreal.
Might wait on MK - I really HATE the "Peanuts" device in movies - I find it threadbare and unfunny.
I should make clear that I have no problem with artifice, just think Anderson is using it as a crutch in this case. And, despite that criticism, I enjoyed the movie immensely. |
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| grace |
| Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:26 am |
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Joe Vitus wrote: The only thing I couldn't stand is Bob Balaban too cute and twee and sentimental by far, dressed like a garden gnome, usually stuck at the bottom of the frame, and narrating in a monotone the events of the movie.
(Predictably enough,) Bob Balaban was one of my favorite characters in MK. I interpreted him as a running joke-slash-narrator and totally enjoyed the posing and earnestness. I didn't notice the whole hyper-intellectual kids thing - possibly because (for example) we had a record set an awful lot like the one in MK in my childhood house, they weren't that uncommon - but I guess you're right on that. Overall, I loved just about everything about Moonrise Kingdom.
I've never seen Sound of Music, but am intrigued by the comparison. There's no twirling singing or anything - in what respects are they similar? Mawkish sentimentality (which I'm all for, by the way)? Or something else?
I was going to ask this but see that The New Yorker already did: Does Wes Anderson hate dogs? |
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| grace |
| Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:38 am |
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| On my way to that special hell reserved for lovers of the romcom, I saw Seeking a Friend for the End of the World. It's a romcom all right, but not completely a sweet, fluffy one; there's a little sarcasm, maybe darkness, sprinkled about. Carell plays his usual part - but he does it well - and Keira Knightley deftly handles both comedy and what drama is required. Written and directed by the writer of Nick and Norah's Infinite Playlist, SAF... is a little heavier weight than N&NIP, but still sweet and funny. And dark, too. If you're thinking about seeing SAF... for Patton Oswalt or Melanie Lynskey, just watch the trailer. Otherwise, SAF... was a perfectly enjoyable little flick, much better than I had anticipated it being. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:54 am |
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The dialogue "Was he as good dog?" "Who can say?" is an example of the hyper-intellectuality of the kids. Also the way they dealt with "being married."
Yes, I meant the mawkish sentimentality. Which, like you, I have no problem with. Just don't see the need to apologize for. Both movies take place much more in a world we'd like to live in rather than the one we actually do. "Naughty" children who are really lovable, and just wanting to be loved. Also--don't know how to explain this succinctly-- but the affirmative message of every person having a right place to belong and only seeming like outcasts until they find their proper place.
How on earth have you managed to never see The Sound of Music????? There must be nuns with rulers lying in wait for you. |
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| grace |
| Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:10 am |
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I guess I just took all that (marriage and dialogue) as part of the artifice and left it at that. And I totally cop to being a Pollyanna, but I still believe that one about finding the right place to fit in.
The hubby thought MK had a Coen brothers feel in some spots - I think the home for boys was one.
The Sound of Music - during his Don Draper phase, my dad and his secretary took my brother and sisters to see it, leaving my mother and me at home (I was deemed too young; and Mom was, well, the wife). At the time I pitched a fit, but now you probably couldn't pay me to watch it. |
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| bartist |
| Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:23 am |
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Quote: How on earth have you managed to never see The Sound of Music????? There must be nuns with rulers lying in wait for you.
Quote: The Sound of Music - during his Don Draper phase, my dad and his secretary took my brother and sisters to see it, leaving my mother and me at home (I was deemed too young...
OK, but....how could anyone be deemed "too young" for TSOM? I mean, there are all kinds of films, from Goodfellas to The Exorcist, that I wouldn't take a small child to, but TSOM doesn't spring to mind. And it's been on the tube, what, 6,492 times since its release? I guess this all speaks well to your ability to not be swamped by popular culture |
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| Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:44 am |
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I was four, and was told I was too young to go. Perhaps Pop actually feared that I'd kick the secretary in the shins or something. Mom and I had a good time, made popcorn and watched TV or something (I only recall the popcorn). And I can get very stubborn about things, and have refused to see that movie, even on TV.
On to more current films.... |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:54 am |
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I never saw The Sound of Music and never will. I hate the title song. And Idlylwiess or however it is spelled makes me want to puke. Friends of mine moved to an apartment right across from a nice movie house. They were so happy that they could walk across the street to see movies. TSoM had just opened there. It stayed for a year and they moved a few weeks before it did. So much for the theatre across the street.  |
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| Syd |
| Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:05 pm |
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| I've seen it several times but I don't like it all that much. It doesn't seem all that substantial. It really needs a chase scene across the Alps with fighter jets trying to stop the von Trapps. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:02 pm |
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| yambu |
| Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:48 pm |
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Joe Vitus wrote: ....How on earth have you managed to never see The Sound of Music????? There must be nuns with rulers lying in wait for you. |
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