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| billyweeds |
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| The receipt of Notorious completes my collection of all my favorite Hitchcocks. I now own Rear Window, Psycho, Vertigo, North by Northwest, Strangers on a Train, Rebecca, The Lady Vanishes, The 39 Steps, and now Notorious. Along with a lot of other near-favorites and a couple of dogs. But anything by Hitchcock is IMO some sort of classic, even the lousy ones. |
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| Syd |
| Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 11:29 am |
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| I'm watching Babette's Feast, which reveals how French cooking is the road to evil. In 1871, this was a humble town full of good works, hymns and the love of God, and this began the long road to legalized pornography, prostitution and drugs. I blame the turtle with the evil eye. This is only the beginning of their time of truffles. |
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| bartist |
| Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 11:34 am |
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The absence of Harry Dean Stanton or Sigourney Weaver in NXNW did present some problems for my trivia quiz last week, but aside from that, it's one of my favorites. I like Cary Grant using the tiny little shaver on his big manly face and getting the funny look in the men's room. Like Joe, I'm not sure if I've seen Notorious or may have seen too long ago and it's plunged over the memory horizon.
Billy, when you lay out all the goods in Bridesmaids like that....
Quote: The bond between Wiig and bride-to-be Maya Rudolph, the love connection between Wiig and Irish cop Chris O'Dowd, Melissa McCarthy's new definition of tough love, Jon Hamm's new high bar for douchebaggery, Rose Byrne's new kind of frenemy--these are all identifiable to me.
....it sounds like the comedy of the year, indeed. I liked it, but somehow it was too much something, and I can't put a finger on what that was. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 11:42 am |
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| Notorious is, among other things, extraordinarily outspoken about sex for a 40s movie. There is no doubt what Ingrid Bergman has to do with Claude Rains as part of her job, nor what she wants Cary to do with her. She's a heavy drinker (these days we might say "alcoholic") who's out there sexually--and that's blunter than in 95 percent of 1940s cinema. |
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| whiskeypriest |
| Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 4:55 pm |
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billyweeds wrote: The receipt of Notorious completes my collection of all my favorite Hitchcocks. I now own Rear Window, Psycho, Vertigo, North by Northwest, Strangers on a Train, Rebecca, The Lady Vanishes, The 39 Steps, and now Notorious. Along with a lot of other near-favorites and a couple of dogs. But anything by Hitchcock is IMO some sort of classic, even the lousy ones. |
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| Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 4:57 pm |
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billyweeds wrote: Notorious is, among other things, extraordinarily outspoken about sex for a 40s movie. There is no doubt what Ingrid Bergman has to do with Claude Rains as part of her job, nor what she wants Cary to do with her. She's a heavy drinker (these days we might say "alcoholic") who's out there sexually--and that's blunter than in 95 percent of 1940s cinema. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 5:09 pm |
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whiskeypriest wrote: billyweeds wrote: The receipt of Notorious completes my collection of all my favorite Hitchcocks. I now own Rear Window, Psycho, Vertigo, North by Northwest, Strangers on a Train, Rebecca, The Lady Vanishes, The 39 Steps, and now Notorious. Along with a lot of other near-favorites and a couple of dogs. But anything by Hitchcock is IMO some sort of classic, even the lousy ones. Bad Hitchcock is like a bad blow job. When all is said and done, it's still a blow job.
This is something only straight men would say, poor bastards. |
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| chillywilly |
| Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 5:17 pm |
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billyweeds wrote: Santa brought the unrated Bridesmaids (complete with extras) and Hitchcock's Notorious (with countless extras) for Christmas.
Starting to watch Bridesmaids again and once again (the fourth time) finding it fall-out-of-your-chair hilarious, I can't begin to comprehend how someone as bright as Gary can classify this great, classic, Marx-Brothers-Monty-Python-W.C.-Fields-level comedy as raunchy and unfunny. Once again, I have to fall back on "it's what makes horse races" wisdom. But I still can't remotely understand it.
I was on the appreciative fence with Kristen Wiig's character, but loved Melissa McCarthy's role without reservations. I will have to give this unrated version a spin here soon and see if it rattles the laughter chains. |
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| Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 5:19 pm |
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billyweeds wrote: The receipt of Notorious completes my collection of all my favorite Hitchcocks. I now own Rear Window, Psycho, Vertigo, North by Northwest, Strangers on a Train, Rebecca, The Lady Vanishes, The 39 Steps, and now Notorious. Along with a lot of other near-favorites and a couple of dogs. But anything by Hitchcock is IMO some sort of classic, even the lousy ones.
Do you also own Family Plot?
I don't recall if I've seen Notorious. Rear Window remains my favorite Hitchcock, with well over 20 views in the last 20 years. |
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| Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 5:34 pm |
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| The only movie related item I got for Christmas was Inception on Blu-ray. It must have been out for some time now since the digital copy option expired in May of 2011. Will have to see how a 3rd viewing (2 in the theater and 1 on DVD) holds up. One of the only movies with so many twists and plots that I never once got confused by. So well put together. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 6:26 pm |
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| Cannot describe how thoroughly I loathe Inception. However, Rear Window is not only my favorite Hitchcock, but my favorite movie, period. I do own Family Plot, and like it enormously. |
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| Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:36 am |
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| Why did someone leave a James Bond movie laying around on the bottom of Cillian Murphy's unconscious mind? |
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| Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:01 am |
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POSSIBLE SPOILERS, BUT MAYBE NOT....
Yet another dramedy without much story or character development, and a central character who needs a dope-slap: Greenberg. I know some here liked this, and I can see that some may warmly greet Stiller's performance, which seems like a change of pace for him. His character has a line where he admits that he is preoccupied with the past (his therapist pointed it out to him), and indeed he is, but it doesn't make the most compelling movie for this viewer. We are led to believe that possibly maybe the romance with Greta Gerwig, his brother's family's errand girl, which keeps crashing and then partially rebooting, might possibly maybe be on firmer footing at the end, but it's kind of hard to tell and there are so many hints that they are really of two different generations and will quickly run out of things to say to each other. But maybe not. The movie is evasive on such matters and just never quite achieved solidity for me. For me, the best performance was from Rhys Ifans, as an old friend who somehow manages to put up with Greenberg's quirks and neuroses....this ranking of mine may be largely due to him being the only character I really liked. Something needs to happen to Greenberg, but I'm not sure that anything did. Meh. |
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| Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:45 am |
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| Greenberg, which I liked a lot, affected a lot of people negatively, largely for reasons bartist talks about. |
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| Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 12:13 pm |
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It's hard when you want to like a film, but just can't. Stiller is so good when he's good, from Derek Zoolander to Tugg Speedman, that I can overlook the occasional focker-up. I thought it was brave of him to try Greenberg, and it was an interesting sketch of a guy who maybe did figure some things out including a use for those annoying neighbors in his pool.
I hugely look forward to his Walter Mitty project, and hope it reaches its potential. |
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