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Syd |
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:10 pm |
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grace wrote: I like Something Wild just fine, but I can't help thinking Liotta might consider Goodfellas a higher point in his career than SW. But I guess a peak's a peak.
I thought Jeff Daniels was standout-fantastic in SW. But I even liked him in RV, so .... I'm easy.
Goodfellas was the 1990 movie I had in mind. I think he's a bit better in Something Wild though Goodfellas is the better movie. In between he was Joe Jackson in Field of Dreams. I'm surprised I haven't seen that many of Liotta's movies, although I remember him in Heartbreakers. I probably will skip the Uwe Boll film he's in. |
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whiskeypriest |
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:13 pm |
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grace wrote: whiskeypriest wrote: grace wrote: I like Something Wild just fine, but I can't help thinking Liotta might consider Goodfellas a higher point in his career than SW. But I guess a peak's a peak.
I thought Jeff Daniels was standout-fantastic in SW. But I even liked him in RV, so .... I'm easy. You were with Jeff Daniels in a Recreational Vehicle? Even gary has nothing on that! Tell me more!
It would be ungentlewomanly of me to expound on that. But I did really spend about 30 seconds on an RV with James MacArthur and Cybill Shepherd many years ago. That was my way of asking, WTF does RV stand for? Which I belatedly realize makes me look a tad stupid. But then, I never saw the movie, which I belatedly realize makes me look very smart indeed. |
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grace |
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:16 pm |
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whiskeypriest wrote: grace wrote: whiskeypriest wrote: grace wrote: I like Something Wild just fine, but I can't help thinking Liotta might consider Goodfellas a higher point in his career than SW. But I guess a peak's a peak.
I thought Jeff Daniels was standout-fantastic in SW. But I even liked him in RV, so .... I'm easy. You were with Jeff Daniels in a Recreational Vehicle? Even gary has nothing on that! Tell me more!
It would be ungentlewomanly of me to expound on that. But I did really spend about 30 seconds on an RV with James MacArthur and Cybill Shepherd many years ago. That was my way of asking, WTF does RV stand for? Which I belatedly realize makes me look a tad stupid. But then, I never saw the movie, which I belatedly realize makes me look very smart indeed.
It's a terrible, terrible movie; but Daniels and Chenoweth are fun in it and make the parts they're in fairly watchable. Keep in mind, however, that I have no taste. No interest in the real-life RV story, eh? Oh, well. |
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grace |
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:20 pm |
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Syd wrote: Goodfellas was the 1990 movie I had in mind. I think he's a bit better in Something Wild though Goodfellas is the better movie. In between he was Joe Jackson in Field of Dreams. I'm surprised I haven't seen that many of Liotta's movies, although I remember him in Heartbreakers. I probably will skip the Uwe Boll film he's in.
I think Goodfellas is a more complex character and Liotta's best work - just my opinion.
Liotta was phenomenal in CopLand. Also just my opinion. He was also pretty good in a middling to bad motel movie with John Cusack; but yeah, he has made some stinkers. Ticker, anyone?
motel movie = Identity. |
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marantzo |
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:55 pm |
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grace wrote: whiskeypriest wrote: grace wrote: I like Something Wild just fine, but I can't help thinking Liotta might consider Goodfellas a higher point in his career than SW. But I guess a peak's a peak.
I thought Jeff Daniels was standout-fantastic in SW. But I even liked him in RV, so .... I'm easy. You were with Jeff Daniels in a Recreational Vehicle? Even gary has nothing on that! Tell me more!
It would be ungentlewomanly of me to expound on that. But I did really spend about 30 seconds on an RV with James MacArthur and Cybill Shepherd many years ago.
Don't tell me Grace, you had a 30 second threesome with MacArthur and Shepherd?
Speaking of Copland, imo it was the best performance Stallone ever gave. Too bad about his money-makers because he should have done more serious roles. |
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grace |
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:37 pm |
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marantzo wrote:
Don't tell me Grace, you had a 30 second threesome with MacArthur and Shepherd?
No, I had to escort them out of the beach where I worked (and where RVs are prohibited). Then we all had sex. |
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shannon |
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:02 pm |
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bartist wrote: DVDs might stick around because, as with books, some people want to own a work of art as a palpable object (vs. just ones and zeros somewhere inside a PC).
DVD's are a standard definition medium and since you can only buy high definition televisions are at this point, DVD's are essentially dead. (Why would you spend money on something that's going to look better streaming on Netflix?) Give it maybe two years, DVD's won't around anymore. Only time will tell if people are really interested in Blu-ray. If they don't drop from the $30-40 price range, I doubt they will. |
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Joe Vitus |
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:05 pm |
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Well, Blu-Ray players do upgrade the image of standard DVDs, but your point is essentially correct. |
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shannon |
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:09 pm |
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Also, are that many people really going to buy a $400 blu-ray player when they could spend <$100 on a Roku and stream their movies in HD? |
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Joe Vitus |
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:09 pm |
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billyweeds wrote: After many years of meaning to do so, I finally saw Something Wild, the Jonathan Demme screwball-comedy-turned-film-noir starring Jeff Daniels, Melanie Griffith, and Ray Liotta in spectacular form (all three). It's a "wild" ride (the movie's title sums it up perfectly) and one of the best films of the 1980s. Its reputation preceded it and would have ruined it were the film not so utterly perfect. Wow.
One could make a case for SW being a career peak for all four major participants (Demme, Daniels, Griffith, Liotta). It's just that impressive.
And it streams on Netflix.
I really don't like the movie. From the moment Daniels stiffs the restaurant, I don't like any of the people or care what happens to them. But as to "career peak," possibly. I might put Purple Rose of Cairo above it for Daniels, and most people would put Goodfellas above it for Liotta, though I wouldn't. I think Demme made a much better comedy with Married to the Mob. |
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carrobin |
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:13 pm |
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As a Luddite who depends on a little DVD player and hasn't gotten around to re-hooking-up my other machinery, I'm leery of "streaming." But will streaming ever replace the DVDs (and in many cases, VHS tapes) that contain older movies, TV shows, and other obscure items? My Alan Bates library is extensive, even though some of his movies, like "Nijinsky," have never been on DVD. Maybe there would be a way to stream my favorite French film, "Romauld et Juliette," or "The Bed-Sitting Room," but could I find "Richard Diamond, Private Detective" or even "The Rockford Files"?
I remember when there were TV commercials in the VHS era promising that "any movie" from any year and any country would soon be available. Still waiting. |
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shannon |
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:24 pm |
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carrobin wrote: As a Luddite who depends on a little DVD player and hasn't gotten around to re-hooking-up my other machinery, I'm leery of "streaming." But will streaming ever replace the DVDs (and in many cases, VHS tapes) that contain older movies, TV shows, and other obscure items? My Alan Bates library is extensive, even though some of his movies, like "Nijinsky," have never been on DVD. Maybe there would be a way to stream my favorite French film, "Romauld et Juliette," or "The Bed-Sitting Room," but could I find "Richard Diamond, Private Detective" or even "The Rockford Files"?
I remember when there were TV commercials in the VHS era promising that "any movie" from any year and any country would soon be available. Still waiting.
These may not be able for streaming, but you can download most, if not all, of these somewhere in Internet Land if you know where to look. Just slap it onto a USB drive and plug it into your video game system or blu-ray player. Most televisions you purchase nowadays have a USB slot for this purpose. I went on a Rolling Stones kick a few weeks ago and was able to find and obtain both "Performance" and "Cocksucker Blues" within an hour and it cost me nothing. The later has never been available in any medium, period. |
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Joe Vitus |
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:29 pm |
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But she brings up an important point which is, yes Carol, you might well lose a lot of those Alan Bates movies, depending on who deems it necessary that they be made available streaming, or who cares enough about them to make them available. |
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carrobin |
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:31 pm |
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I still haven't even figured out how to get my iPhone to do its tricks yet (well, I can make calls and get e-mail, so I haven't really needed further functions). And I have a friend who seems to get a kick out of tracking down esoteric items on the web (that's how I got "Nijinsky" and "Romauld et Juliette" on disks, along with the Bates/Christie "Separate Tables" and the Diana Rigg "Avengers" seasons, among many others). But I doubt that I'll ever be tech-savvy enough to do it myself. |
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shannon |
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:33 pm |
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If they've ever been available, they always will be available. It doesn't matter if someone decides it's worth streaming to you or not. You can still have it. You may not be able to hold it in your hand, but it's still there. |
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