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gromit |
Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:09 am |
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Gloria seemed fairly standard issue to me, but I think we've been through that.
I liked the start of Faces but then it kind of gets bogged down and a little annoying. Still an interesting film. I like the earlier Shadows, which involves jazz and Mingus-related msuic and an interracial couple.
Of course, A Woman Under the Influence is the motherlode for Cassavetes. While Killing of a Chiense Bookie is interesting but doesn't fully work for me. I hated Husbands with Falk, Gazzara and Cassavetes sort of ratpacking around. Way too loose and pointless for me. Love Streams is affecting but meandering and drawn out.
I've never seen Minnie and Moskowitz (1971) |
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:19 am |
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I prefer Casssavetes the actor to the director. I'd rather see The Dirty Dozen than Faces or Shadows or Husbands any day.
However, I think Cassavetes was lethally miscast in Rosemary's Baby. Guy Woodhouse (JC's character) was supposed to be as benign as Robert Redford (who would have been perfect casting), but with Cassavetes you could see trouble coming a mile away. |
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:23 am |
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Well, I thought Rowlands was pretty strong in Faces, so I'll will look for Gloria, and then maybe leave it at that. And that's interesting about RB -- if Guy was supposed to look benign, then LOL Cassavettes was certainly the wrong man for the job. |
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Joe Vitus |
Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:39 am |
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billyweeds wrote: However, I think Cassavetes was lethally miscast in Rosemary's Baby. Guy Woodhouse (JC's character) was supposed to be as benign as Robert Redford (who would have been perfect casting), but with Cassavetes you could see trouble coming a mile away.
Largely I agree, but I will say that Cassavetes has a charisma somewhat on the Stanley Kowalski level (and note I say "Stanley" not "Brando") which goes a long way towards explaining why Rosemary would be both attracted to him and intimidated enough to never resist his prodding (to have the older couple around, to make her eat the laced desert she detests, etc.). Plus, it's sort of Polanski's contention in most of his movies (oddly not Macbeth) that evil is obvious and right in front of us and we still don't recognize it. It's a recurring black joke of his. |
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gromit |
Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:03 pm |
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bartist wrote: Well, I thought Rowlands was pretty strong in Faces, so I'll will look for Gloria, and then maybe leave it at that.
Well, I hope you've seen A Woman Under the Influence, where Rowlands is great. |
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Befade |
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:57 pm |
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Quote: I've never seen Minnie and Moskowitz (1971)
Rowlands is in that one, too. I've seen it several times. It's very sweet and nothing like Under the Influence which is painful to watch. |
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chillywilly |
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 2:51 pm |
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Saw Love and Other Drugs the other night. It wasn't the first movie I saw that had a topless Anne Hathaway and a naked Jake Gyllenhaal in it, but it was the first when Jake and Anne are fully naked together and not in the back of a car. Their couplings contrast in each movie, for obvious reasons.
As for the plot, Hathaway's character as a young sufferer of alzheimer's works on some levels, at least until towards the end of the movie where her character deteriorates on many levels. Jake's womanizer-turned-dedicated decent guy is more entertaining and has a sense of keeping you interested in this movie, well beyond all of the nudity that is pretty rampant throughout the movie.
The movie got mixed reviews back in when it first came out and while I can understand the critics view, I liked it more than I expected to, as it was a well cast movie and a consistent plot. Let's see what happens with Anne as the new Catwoman. I doubt she'll be naked, though. |
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Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 4:41 pm |
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It's been a while, but I'm not sure Hathaway had Alzheimer's. Lou Gehrig's Disease, maybe, or something like it, which meant eventual paralysis. The rampant nudity I'm 100 percent sure of. I also liked it more than I anticipated and thought Gyllenhaal continued to establish himself as a terrific actor, lightyears beyond Mr. Darko. |
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billyweeds |
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 8:45 pm |
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Gyllenhaal was obviously a comer as early as October Sky, in which he more than held his own opposite the brilliant Chris Cooper and Laura Dern. |
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billyweeds |
Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 10:27 am |
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Soldier's Girl is a powerful and marvelously well acted true story about the infantryman who fell in love with the in-transition transexual in 1999. Won't say more about the story, though it made major headlines at the time. Troy Garrity (the son of Jane Fonda and Tom Hayden) as the soldier and Lee Pace (Pushing Daisies, Marmaduke) as the transexual are perfect in the leads, and Shawn Hatosy as the soldier's troubled roommate is their equal. Frank Pierson directs brilliantly and the whole thing is worth three Friends With Benefits's and two Trees of Life put together. |
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chillywilly |
Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 12:07 pm |
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billyweeds wrote: Gyllenhaal was obviously a comer as early as October Sky, in which he more than held his own opposite the brilliant Chris Cooper and Laura Dern.
Oh yes, I always forget about that movie. Talk about well cast and a great feel good movie. |
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Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 10:35 pm |
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knox wrote: It's been a while, but I'm not sure Hathaway had Alzheimer's. Lou Gehrig's Disease, maybe, or something like it, which meant eventual paralysis. The rampant nudity I'm 100 percent sure of. I also liked it more than I anticipated and thought Gyllenhaal continued to establish himself as a terrific actor, lightyears beyond Mr. Darko.
She had early-onset Parkinson's. Usually Parkinson's hits people a lot older than her, but she was one of the small percentage who gets it in their twenties. |
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bartist |
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:32 am |
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I remember the chat about that....Michael J. Fox also had early onset, getting his first diagnosis in 1991, at the age of 30. Have enjoyed his recent stints on The Good Wife. |
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marantzo |
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:17 pm |
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Just finished watching Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels, which I had never seen. I'd always heard that it was very good and always wanted to see it so I picked it up at our exceptional video store. And it was very good, in fact very, very good. Richie made some very entertaining wacky movies with interesting editing etc. I really enjoyed Snatch also.
It is hard to believe how influentially destructive Madonna could be to Guy Ritchie's talent. Thanks to God (as my wife would say), that he is rid of her. The phrase, "Bringing one down to your level", should have a picture of Madonna and Richie beside it in the book of phrases.
I imagine that everyone on here but I, had seen the movie. |
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billyweeds |
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 10:52 pm |
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Never seen either one. Have to see them now. |
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