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| Joe Vitus |
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Keep in mind that ending was already written. That was Leigh Brackett's invention. In fact, whatever Altman says now, the word from Brackett at the time was that he was more interested in how they got to the ending than the ending itself.
In any case, the movie is a classic, and one of my all-time favorites. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:59 pm |
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| What Altman did in the eary-to-mid seventies is just staggering. MASH, Brewster McCloud, McCabe and Mrs. Miller, The Long Goodbye, Nashville. These movies just knock me out. Funny and human and with a strong emotional wallop. And not remotely formulaic. If the rest of his output was crap (and a whole lot of it was), it couldn't matter less. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:03 pm |
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Bart just said that Altman said the ending had to stay, he didn't say he wrote it.
" In fact, whatever Altman says now..."
Sadly, he can't say anything now. |
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| bartist |
| Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:04 pm |
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Not even "O.C. & Stiggs" can tilt the balance away from "staggering."  |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:05 pm |
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Joe Vitus wrote: What Altman did in the eary-to-mid seventies is just staggering. MASH, Brewster McCloud, McCabe and Mrs. Miller, The Long Goodbye, Nashville. These movies just knock me out. Funny and human and with a strong emotional wallop. And not remotely formulaic. If the rest of his output was crap (and a whole lot of it was), it couldn't matter less.
What about California Split? |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:11 pm |
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| I knew someone would ask that. To my shame, I have still never seen it. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:15 pm |
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| It's very good. I think it was the movie after TLG but there might have been one or two between. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:22 pm |
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It was for a really long time unavailable, and though TCM used to run it, they edited so I skipped it. It's out of print on DVD, and the cost for even used copies is prohibitive for me.
I'd like to see it. |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:27 pm |
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TLG and Cali. Split are a natural double-feature, both with Elliot Gould (and both have a trip to Mexico for Gould, as it happens).
"Thieves Like Us" came between them, an earlier and less comic "O Brother Where Art Thou." |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:33 pm |
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Joe Vitus wrote: It was for a really long time unavailable, and though TCM used to run it, they edited so I skipped it. It's out of print on DVD, and the cost for even used copies is prohibitive for me.
I'd like to see it.
They have it at the video store I go to. It is the most extensive video store I've even been to. I would think that there would be a similar outlet in Austin. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:20 pm |
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marantzo wrote: SPOILER THE LONG GOODBYE:
Bart, how come you didn't mention Eileen driving to see Terry and Marlowe walking down the road as she passes going the other way? Everything worked out fine. Of course Terry was already dead when Marlowe shot him so he had nothing to be bothered with. 
End spoiler
That part about SPOILER Terry already being dead END SPOILER I had completely forgotten. I have to see it again. SPOILER Seems to me Marlowe killed him.END SPOILER END POST |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:40 pm |
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| I live in Houston. Marc lives in Austin. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:36 pm |
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Billy, SPOILER THE LONG GOODBYE,
He is supposed to be dead. He faked his death and had pictures and coroner reports, from Mexico and the police department and he was dead for the American cops etc. etc. But all through the movie I was sure he wasn't really dead and Marlowe didn't think so either. Maybe you knew what I meant by saying he was already dead. Then, never mind. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:37 pm |
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| Too bad Joe. Austin is a better place. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:16 am |
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| Austin is Hipster Purgatory. I prefer Houston. 70's-80's era Austin was a different thing entirely. |
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