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carrobin
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 4:26 pm Reply with quote
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That's it. I must have turned Super Dave into Steve. I hope he's happily retired and not the victim of one of his stunts.
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marantzo
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 5:05 pm Reply with quote
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billyweeds wrote:
Bob Einstein (Albert's brother) is Super Dave Osborne.


Super Dave TV show was produced by a friend of mine. In fact two friends of mine. One of them was listed as a writer though he didn't write any of it or very very little of it. When I was playing golf with him in Palm Springs one time I told him that being a non-writer of the show it might have been embarrassing if he won a prize for writing that he had to accept. He laughed and said it did win a prize for writing and he went up with the writers to accept the award. I think it was the Emmys, but I might be mistaken.
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 5:18 pm Reply with quote
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Just finished watching Broken Embraces by Almodovar. Not up there with his great ones but very good. He really knows how to put together a movie and as usual visually engrossing. Penelope Cruz is gorgeous. I am so glad that she went back to Europe to make films because she can really act, unlike the roles and dialogue they gave her Hollywood.
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 5:47 pm Reply with quote
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marantzo wrote:
Just finished watching Broken Embraces by Almodovar. Not up there with his great ones but very good. He really knows how to put together a movie and as usual visually engrossing. Penelope Cruz is gorgeous. I am so glad that she went back to Europe to make films because she can really act, unlike the roles and dialogue they gave her Hollywood.


She won a not-undeserved Oscar for Vicky Cristina Barcelona. Otherwise I agree her American roles have been rotten and her acting in them hasn't been very good. In her native tongue she's a pistol.
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billyweeds
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 5:48 pm Reply with quote
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Bob (Super Dave Osborne) Einstein also has a hilarious cameo in Modern Romance. As do George Kennedy and Meadowlark Lemon (don't ask).
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billyweeds
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 5:53 pm Reply with quote
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Joe Vitus wrote:
Albert Brooks is the one with more talent.


True, but not by much. Jim Brooks is often underrated because people downgrade the very effective Terms of Endearment. It was a bit overrated, but very powerful. Lately he's been underappreciated. Two of his movies, Spanglish and How Do You Know, are really polarizing. I adored HDYK and greatly admired Spanglish, especially the really polarizing performance by Tea Leoni, which many, many people thought was awful and which I thought should have won the Oscar.
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marantzo
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 6:07 pm Reply with quote
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I didn't like Tea Leoni until I saw her in Ghost Town and she was very good. I haven't seen Spanglish.

"She won a not-undeserved Oscar for Vicky Cristina Barcelona. Otherwise I agree her American roles have been rotten and her acting in them hasn't been very good. In her native tongue she's a pistol."

Well VCB was made in Spain and she did speak Spanish so it wasn't really an American role.

I think I mentioned this before but when I saw it in Winnipeg with my wife and Cruz came into the picture Marta would break out laughing a few seconds before the rest of the audience because they had to read the subtitles.
marantzo
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 6:11 pm Reply with quote
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I'll have to pick up Modern Romance.
billyweeds
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 6:23 pm Reply with quote
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Leoni in Spanglish gives one of the most vanity-free performances I've ever seen. She absolutely refuses to sweeten the character and as a result makes her near-hateful, but the actress gains my everlasitng respect.
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bartist
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 6:34 pm Reply with quote
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What's a good entry-level Almodovar? Sad to say, I just haven't seen any of his work, not even his breakthrough "Mujeres al borde de un ataque de nervios."

Brooks -- liked Spanglish and TOE and will not underrate anyone who co-created Mary Tyler Moore, Taxi, The Simpsons, and other notable series. As for Leoni, I have a borderline crush on her and can't find fault with any of her performances.

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billyweeds
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 6:43 pm Reply with quote
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Forgot to mention that in addition to being a first-rate actress when cast and directed well, Leoni is also drop-dead gorgeous.
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marantzo
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:22 pm Reply with quote
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Forgot to mention that in addition to being a first-rate actress when cast and directed well, Leoni is also drop-dead gorgeous.


She's not my taste in looks, but to each his own.

Bart I'd start with Women On the Edge of A Nervous Breakdown. That's the first one of his that I saw, back in the 80's I think. Maybe the 90's.
grace
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:36 pm Reply with quote
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bartist wrote:
As for Leoni, I have a borderline crush on her and can't find fault with any of her performances.

Good news for you -- she and Duchovny have separated again.
Bad news for you -- Duchovny's a Leo (as are you, no?).

I also very much liked Ms. Leoni's work in Spanglish and just about everything else I've seen her in -- Ghost Town, Flirting with Disaster, even Family Man.
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gromit
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:08 am Reply with quote
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billyweeds wrote:

All clear now?

Got it.
Thanks.
So to summarize, they are the same person though one of them is sometimes also Albert Einstein and neither one of them is Super Dave Osborne.
That was easy.

Basically I think I have a decent idea about James L. and the evil non-twin Albert gets blended in.

Looking for Comedy in the Muslim World was indeed dull and witless. As I recall, they don't even leave India, so not exactly Super Dave risk-level there.

But there is one good bit where they visit the Taj Mahal, and Albert is so self-absorbed and busy chatting on his cell phone that he misses the entire building (which we see in the background as he makes a wrong turn). His comment to his wife on the other end of the phone, "Eh, nothing special. It's kind of poorly designed."
I laugh just thinking of that scene.
The rest of the film was half-hearted, desultory, unfunny.

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Marc
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:47 am Reply with quote
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Women On The Verge Of A Nervous Breakdown is a good intro to Almodovar.
Talk To Me and All About My Mother are also excellent. There's almost no way you won't enjoy any of Pedro's films.
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