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| billyweeds |
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Two differing opinions:
1) The ending to The Woman in the Window doesn't seem to me to be "tacked on" at all. It's important to the character played by Robinson that this be wish-fulfillment rather than real waking nightmare. This, in other words, is not Dallas.
2) Scarlet Street was not as good as The Woman in the Window. The plot of SS is quite ridiculous as compared with WW. The termagent wife of the henpecked husband in particular was a cliche that was already dated in the 40s. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:45 am |
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Ghulam wrote: .
I liked Woody Allen's You Will Meet a Tall Dark Stranger more than most critics did. It is slightly below 'Vicky Cristina Barcelona', but at par with 'Match Point' and 'Melinda and Melinda'. It is way better than most of the fare at the multiplex (except of course MIP).
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Ghulam, I agree with everything above. For some strange reason critics seem to relish panning or semi-panning almost all of Woody's movies from the last ten years or so, even though some of them are good, very good or even excellent. |
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| gromit |
| Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 9:36 am |
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Try Scarlet Street and report back, Bart.
So Billy can know just how mistaken his opinion is.
There is one plot contrivance in SS which is a little hokey but kind of fun, but all the deceptions end up working against the deceivers very nicely. Again, there is a tacked on ending so that crime doesn't pay. Fritz knew how to play the game. You can ignore that less embarrassing ending as well. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 10:07 am |
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marantzo wrote: Ghulam wrote: .
I liked Woody Allen's You Will Meet a Tall Dark Stranger more than most critics did. It is slightly below 'Vicky Cristina Barcelona', but at par with 'Match Point' and 'Melinda and Melinda'. It is way better than most of the fare at the multiplex (except of course MIP).
. , I agree with everything above. For some strange reason critics seem to relish panning or semi-panning almost all of Woody's movies from the last ten years or so, even though some of them are good, very good or even excellent.
I agree with Gary, even though I am one of the most vocal critics of Woody's disasters like Hollywood Ending and The Curse of Whatever Works. |
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| Ghulam |
| Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 11:43 am |
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marantzo wrote: Ghulam wrote: .
I liked Woody Allen's You Will Meet a Tall Dark Stranger more than most critics did. It is slightly below 'Vicky Cristina Barcelona', but at par with 'Match Point' and 'Melinda and Melinda'. It is way better than most of the fare at the multiplex (except of course MIP).
. , I agree with everything above. For some strange reason critics seem to relish panning or semi-panning almost all of Woody's movies from the last ten years or so, even though some of them are good, very good or even excellent.
Perhaps they see him as mocking them for writing his obituaries too soon.
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| bartist |
| Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 12:20 pm |
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Quote: Try Scarlet Street and report back, Bart.
So Billy can know just how mistaken his opinion is.
Heh! Will look for it (I think my UHF oldies station is doing a bunch of Fritz Langs, and they run them over and over, so...), but I can't guarantee anything on Weed correction. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 12:34 pm |
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| As for critics panning most or all of Woody Allen's recent movies, that's just not true. The only movie that IMO has received unfair treatment is YWMATCS which is far better than its rep would seem. Otherwise VCB got raves and an Oscar for Penelope Cruz, Match Play got raves, and Midnight in Paris got raves. Cassandra's Dream got meh reviews, and Whatever Works and Anything Else were panned, rightfully so. |
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| whiskeypriest |
| Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 12:45 pm |
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billyweeds wrote: As for critics panning most or all of Woody Allen's recent movies, that's just not true. The only movie that IMO has received unfair treatment is YWMATCS which is far better than its rep would seem. Otherwise VCB got raves and an Oscar for Penelope Cruz, Match Play got raves, and Midnight in Paris got raves. Cassandra's Dream got meh reviews, and Whatever Works and Anything Else were panned, rightfully so. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 1:00 pm |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 1:14 pm |
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| You Will Meet A Tall Cock Sucker (so don't get too excited.) |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 5:17 pm |
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billyweeds wrote: marantzo wrote: Ghulam wrote: .
I liked Woody Allen's You Will Meet a Tall Dark Stranger more than most critics did. It is slightly below 'Vicky Cristina Barcelona', but at par with 'Match Point' and 'Melinda and Melinda'. It is way better than most of the fare at the multiplex (except of course MIP).
. , I agree with everything above. For some strange reason critics seem to relish panning or semi-panning almost all of Woody's movies from the last ten years or so, even though some of them are good, very good or even excellent.
I agree with Gary, even though I am one of the most vocal critics of Woody's disasters like Hollywood Ending and The Curse of Whatever Works.
There is not a movie he's made in the past ten years that has any connection to how any real human being lives or thinks. He's made some minor, pleasing trifles. Nothing compared with his great work. |
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| Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 5:27 pm |
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"There is not a movie he's made in the past ten years that has any connection to how any real human being lives or thinks."
Really? You could have fooled me. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 9:18 pm |
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| Yes, you certainly were. |
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| bartist |
| Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:43 am |
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| Where's Lorne, because I want to thank him for recommending Barney's Version. Funny and dark and bittersweet at times -- I loved Giamatti and Dustin Hoffman in this. Improbable as the romantic setup is (man sees the true love of his life....at his wedding reception), I found the story very real and engaging, and there's a wonderful little reveal at the end at to the fate of Barney's long lost friend. |
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| Befade |
| Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:17 pm |
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| After 30 minutes of Shutter Island I'm engaged and wanting more. How could it be awful with all the talented people connected with it. |
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