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| Joe Vitus |
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| Just don't drag Marshall McLuhan into this. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 11:20 am |
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"I guess that's the forerunner of the blonde at the beach at the end of 8 1/2"
What blonde and what beach? The end of 8 1/2 was nothing like that. |
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| bartist |
| Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 11:43 am |
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I'm confused, too. Weren't they all dancing around a rocket?
There is a gap-tooth whore who lives in a shack at the beach, and dances lasciviously for the young boys. But she's not blonde, IIRC. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 11:44 am |
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| You're right. I was thinking of La Dolce Vita. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:05 pm |
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Joe Vitus wrote: You're right. I was thinking of La Dolce Vita.
I knew what you were talking about, and it's a very perceptive note. I actually thought I Vitelloni was more completely successful than La Dolce Vita, but LDV had some sequences which top anything in IV or, in fact, in anything else in FF's work. I tend to agree with you about FF in general. "Overpraised" doesn't seem the right word, but "undercriticized" maybe does. |
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| gromit |
| Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:17 pm |
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I think I Vitelloni is a great film.
I love the pacing.
And one of the best films creating a small circle of friends in a small town.
Surprised you hadn't seen it before, billy. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 2:18 pm |
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| Thanks, Billy. I prefer Il Vitelloni to LDV, as well. |
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| whiskeypriest |
| Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 2:33 pm |
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I'm not sure Nights of Cabiria is not my favorite Fellini film. Either that or La Strada, which is great in its use of negative imagery more than anything else.... Where the Hell is that sock? Now I got to hit myself.
Start again. I think Nights of Cabiria and La Strada are great films. The rest of the ones I've seen, 8.5, La Dolce Vita some damned movie that ends with a reporter in a row boat with a huge Rhino... all seem to self-conscious for my tastes. Too... indulgent. He really is. He's one of the most indulgent... Crap, Annie Hall is taking control of my fingers! Anyway, Self conscious, though I enjoyed them, I didn't love them. Well, I didn't really enjoy the one with the rhino all that much. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 5:49 pm |
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| I know I'm alone in this, but I really can't stand Nights of Caberia, and have never been able to sit through the whole thing. |
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| whiskeypriest |
| Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 5:53 pm |
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Joe Vitus wrote: I know I'm alone in this, but I really can't stand Nights of Caberia, and have never been able to sit through the whole thing.
And the Ship Sails On. That's the rhino movie I was trying to recall. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 7:21 pm |
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Never was a fan of LDV, though as Billy wrote, there are some very good scenes in it. I was enthralled by IV and Calabria and 8 1/2 is one of my all time favourites. The ending, which Joe mixed up with another of FF's films, was spectacularly magnificent, winding up a movie that had one wonderful sequence after another.
When Fellini was asked how he thought about Mastroianni playing him in 8 1/2 he said, "He made me thinner and handsome." |
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| Ghulam |
| Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 1:25 am |
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As I remember it from our Fellini forum,"I Vitelloni" (Young Bullocks) was a prequel to La Dolce Vita. One of the village wastrels makes it in Rome.
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| billyweeds |
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Ghulam wrote: As I remember it from our Fellini forum,"I Vitelloni" (Young Bullocks) was a prequel to La Dolce Vita. One of the village wastrels makes it in Rome.
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Couldn't have been a "prequel." I Vitelloni predated LDV by seven years. IV came out in 1953, LDV in 1960. |
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| Ghulam |
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billyweeds wrote: Ghulam wrote: As I remember it from our Fellini forum,"I Vitelloni" (Young Bullocks) was a prequel to La Dolce Vita. One of the village wastrels makes it in Rome.
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Couldn't have been a "prequel." I Vitelloni predated LDV by seven years. IV came out in 1953, LDV in 1960.
Whatever the correct word is for a movie that predates a sequel!
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| whiskeypriest |
| Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 1:10 pm |
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