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| Marj |
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:25 pm |
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I'm sure it's just a case of different tastes, then.  |
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| grace |
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:28 pm |
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I clarified my statement, then we cross-posted, so....
I should be clearer, I guess - I liked both Capote and Infamous for different reasons, and don't prefer one over the other. They're both good/great in some parts, meh in others. Again, just my opinion. To give a truly detailed, footnoted answer I would have to rewatch or skim through them, though*.
I've seen In Cold Blood a number of times, and started but did not finish the book- more due to time constraints and knowing how it comes out than anything else. Excellent, though difficult to watch at times.
*I did check my notes at another place - and while I thought PSH was an excellent Capote, I became insanely bored with the talking head scenes. I acknowledge that Infamous is sort of a Capote Lite, but overall I found it easier to watch than the PSH vehicle. |
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:40 pm |
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I agree with you, grace in general on both movies. I mentioned them only for the performances of the actors who played Perry Smith.[My name aphasia is preventing me from mentioning them right now. You can be sure they'll come back to me as soon as I finish this post.]
I do enjoy Infamous. You're right. It is Capote lite but it's entertaining. I wonder sometimes if the problem, as I see it, was that Daniel Craig was miscast. I've never seen him in anything else so I can't critique him as an actor, only this one role.
I'm curious to know if anyone else was considered for the role in TGWDT. Not because I think Craig is a bad choice, of course I'm still loving the original version - Just curious, I guess. |
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 2:52 pm |
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I realize this is not really appropriate for a Current Film thread. But the discussion of B&W in films started here, so I'll post this clip here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oaf-FylqGxo
It's an old "The Benny Hill Show" clip in which he plays a French film director in the Avant Garde tradition. I love how the pompous interviewer keeps trying to read artistic genius into various aspects of the film only to discover there is a much more prosaic and pedestrian explanation for everything.
I have fond memories of "The Benny Hill Show." It sounds so tame now in the days of easy-to-access internet porn, but at the time there was something wickedly subversive about a program which showed at least one topless woman in every episode and it was being broadcast late at night on non-cable, over-the-public-airwaves TV. For a kid who was in his early teens growing up in, oh, let's say hypothetically, York, Pennsylvania at the time and had a TV in his bedroom, it was, er, very special. |
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 3:01 pm |
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| You're not alone, Earl. My dad was a huge fan. Anytime I'd hear him laughing, I knew he was watching Benny Hill. |
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 3:21 pm |
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| See Daniel Craig in The Mother for another slant on his versitility. |
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 3:24 pm |
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| My dad was also a Benny Hill fan. I've sometimes wondered if he ever chanced across Monty Python but I doubt it. Benny Hill, Bob Hope, and Johnny Carson--those were his humorists. |
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 3:50 pm |
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Befade wrote:
Inla........I like Annette Bening for Oscar. But can you tell me this? What has happened to her voice? I just rewatched The Grifters and she sounds so girlish.......nothing like she does now. Is it heavy smoking or a haughty practiced enunciation? The result of her Medea at UCLA, which went beyond declamatory to stentorian, and a couple of other stage appearances out here in recent years that required deep timbre and zigzagging fluctuations of volume. That would be my guess, though maybe she smokes, too. Also, she's a mom, moms so often have to yell a lot; not to mention being Mrs. Warren Beatty -- that would make me holler all the time, tee-hee. As for Racso, am suspicious, though it's still relatively early days, that if Annette and La Belle Julianne both get nods from that other, um, film society (a dual Gilded Globules slate is all but guaranteed), which, given the interlaced nature of their roles, they should, they will cancel each other out. If not, Mrs. Beatty is certainly way overdue for Aclademy recognition. However, it's the end of August, there's so much time for other mesdames and madumoyzels to turn up in the Awards Derby. Besides Noomi and the Kids wommyn, am majorly rooting for Her Keeneritude as the plus-perfect fulcrum of that wonderful Please Give cast. |
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 4:09 pm |
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| Nice to see you around, this time of year, inla. |
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 4:16 pm |
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marantzo wrote: Nice to see you around, this time of year, inla. Well, thank you, marantzo, it's nice to be around. |
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 4:44 pm |
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| Never watched Benny Hill. My parents hated television and the tv time I managed, growing up, was hard-won. They did see a few Monty Pythons, and my father's casual dismissal of that show no doubt heightened my liking of it. I must, however, thank him for introducing us to Bob and Ray -- he bought a couple of their LPs, and we played them to death. |
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 4:50 pm |
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| I can't think of another actor or actress who has grown on me the way Annette Bening has. When she started, in the Tina Howe play Coastal Disturbances (maybe it was partially the girlish voice) I found her boring and generic and--needless to say--overrated. With the exception of The Grifters, in which everyone kicked butt, I kept my distance. But starting with American Beauty and straight through to The Kids Are All Right, I think she rocks. So go figure. |
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 5:11 pm |
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Quote: Mrs. Beatty is certainly way overdue for Academy recognition.
thanks for you speculations, Inla....I was reading an article about James Spader in Race and thinking.......wouldn't Annette and James be a pair! All that ennunciating and carefully thought out wordings!! (If I could have MY way with these people.......) |
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 6:19 pm |
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Has anyone here gotten around to Mao's Last Dancer yet? It opened here in Houston this past Friday with a big splash because it's a true story and parts of the story are set here. (I don't know if any of it was actually filmed here.) Most of the principal performers in the movie, as well as the real-life people they portrayed, were here for a benefit screening.
I'm not sure if it would be my kind of thing, but I was thinking of giving it a shot next weekend. I haven't seen a Current Film in weeks. Here is the Houston Chronicle review...
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ent/movies/mobile/7160384.html
...which was mostly favorable. The man who plays Li, the dancer who is the main character in the story, by most accounts can both dance and act the part. Plus, it would be nice to see Joan Chen in anything again. I've always liked her.
Perhaps someone familiar with both Dance and Film could tell me more. {Ahem, In LA Reviewer, I'm lookin' in yer direction.} |
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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 6:44 pm |
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Earl wrote: I realize this is not really appropriate for a Current Film thread. But the discussion of B&W in films started here, so I'll post this clip here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oaf-FylqGxo
It's an old "The Benny Hill Show" clip in which he plays a French film director in the Avant Garde tradition. I love how the pompous interviewer keeps trying to read artistic genius into various aspects of the film only to discover there is a much more prosaic and pedestrian explanation for everything.
I have fond memories of "The Benny Hill Show." It sounds so tame now in the days of easy-to-access internet porn, but at the time there was something wickedly subversive about a program which showed at least one topless woman in every episode and it was being broadcast late at night on non-cable, over-the-public-airwaves TV. For a kid who was in his early teens growing up in, oh, let's say hypothetically, York, Pennsylvania at the time and had a TV in his bedroom, it was, er, very special.
It was mind-boggling as a 12-or13-year old to see nudity on regular t.v. I guess no one bothered to watch the shows because Benny Hill didn't have any big reputation here at the time. But there were occasional scenes with topless women. I wonder if a gaffe like that could happen today? |
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