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| lshap |
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 8:29 am |
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billyweeds wrote: Joe Morgenstern in The Wall Street Journal:
"All of which brings us back to the question of expectations, and how Mr. Shyamalan keeps getting work. Eleven years ago he electrified the movie world with the emotional power and dramatic surprise of The Sixth Sense. He followed up with two flawed but intriguing features, Unbreakable and Signs. In the past eight years, though, his oeuvre has gone from bad (The Village) to worse (Lady in the Water) to worst (The Happening.) Purists might argue that his last film was less dreadful than his penultimate one, but the hallmarks were the same: stilted language, robotized acting, glacial pace, ponderous style, dramatic ineptitude and negligible energy. I never meant to make this review an exercise in career assassination, but I can't help thinking of all the lavishly talented filmmakers who have earned and never gotten a shot at big-budget success. What's the secret of this guy's failure?"
Unfortunately, it all comes down to numbers. M. Night built his rep on a strong debut film, and people have been buying tickets ever since, hoping against all logic that he'll recreate some of that dramatic flair. Studios will keep handing this guy a wad of cash to make films - ANY films, apparently - as long as we're stupid enough to keep seeing 'em. |
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| carrobin |
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 9:35 am |
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| "The Sixth Sense" really did have a surprise ending (regardless of those who say they saw it coming, it surprised most of us). I loved that film, and I liked "Signs" a lot. But I haven't seen any of his films since then, though I had hopes that "Airbender" would be a comeback for him. Then I saw the trailer. Too bad. |
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| Syd |
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 10:21 am |
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| The trailer made it look like an incoherent mess, so the trailer was apparently accurate. For me, Shlamayan jumped the shark about half an hour before the end of Signs and hasn't done a thing since I've been the least tempted to see. I liked The Sixth Sense and Unbreakable a lot. |
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| billyweeds |
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 10:43 am |
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Syd wrote: The trailer made it look like an incoherent mess, so the trailer was apparently accurate. For me, Shlamayan jumped the shark about half an hour before the end of Signs and hasn't done a thing since I've been the least tempted to see. I liked The Sixth Sense and Unbreakable a lot.
I thought the last part of Signs was very moving, and the last shot an absolute beauty. I agree that he hasn't done anything good since then. |
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| Joe Vitus |
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 11:22 am |
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| I don't like his movies, but I will say that even when the plots are stupid (and I'd put Unbreakable up there with the worst of them), he does manage to create a mood. That alone is probably worth the ticket price for a number of people. |
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| lshap |
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 11:49 am |
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Shyamalan's films have followed the law of diminishing returns.
I'm with Carol on The Sixth Sense, a nicely-scripted story with genuine emotional heft, and an ending I still believe should be considered a classic.
Unbreakable had a clever premise and some marvelous scenes, but this time the ending was like The Sixth Sense's doppelganger, ruining it for me when it slipped into a silly comic book cliche.
Signs was beautifully directed and had some masterful scenes. Shyamalan seemed to be at his professional pinnacle as a director. But (from what I remember) more and more of his screenplay began to show the cracks of silly dialogue and clunky plot structure. Still, I'll concede that there was real intelligence lurking within the message.
Then the wheels began to come off. The Village had some well-directed scenes and individual shots, but everybody saw Shyamalan's shtick from a mile away and awaited his patented Surprise Ending, like we were watching a card trick performed by a birthday party magician.
I haven't seen one of his films since. Apparently, others have 'cause he's still making new ones. |
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Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 11:55 am |
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| Signs had a wonderful ensemble cast. Mel Gibson, Joaquin Phoenix, Rory Culkin, and then-tiny but even-then-brilliant Abigail Breslin were all superb, and Night directed with a great deal of skill. It's amazing in a horrible, car-wreck sort of way what has happened to him since. |
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| whiskeypriest |
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 11:59 am |
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billyweeds wrote: Signs had a wonderful ensemble cast. Mel Gibson, Joaquin Phoenix, Rory Culkin, and then-tiny but even-then-brilliant Abigail Breslin were all superb, and Night directed with a great deal of skill. It's amazing in a horrible, car-wreck sort of way what has happened to him since. My own guess for MSN's career: deals with Satan never end well. Except for Satan. |
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| lshap |
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 12:54 pm |
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Off to Stowe for the weekend. Was hoping to see a film at the beautifully quaint Stowe Cinema, but all that's playing is Twilight (zero interest), Toy Story (seen it) and Grown Ups (questioning how desperately I want to see a movie...)
I'm bringing a book. |
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| Marc |
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 1:36 pm |
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Quote: Studios will keep handing this guy a wad of cash to make films
Not any more. |
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Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 1:48 pm |
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| Airbender will open with about $60 million. It cost $85 million. It may turn a profit but will not result in the planned on trilogy. It's a franchise killer. |
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| bartist |
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 3:38 pm |
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| Been on a trip the last few days, but news of the Night-mare has reached me here in Lawrence. Ebert gave it a half-star and a review so dripping with contempt that it's sort of amusing in a way. I have this image of Frank Langella, in "Dave," at the end... |
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| billyweeds |
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 4:31 pm |
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whiskeypriest wrote: billyweeds wrote: Signs had a wonderful ensemble cast. Mel Gibson, Joaquin Phoenix, Rory Culkin, and then-tiny but even-then-brilliant Abigail Breslin were all superb, and Night directed with a great deal of skill. It's amazing in a horrible, car-wreck sort of way what has happened to him since. My own guess for MSN's career: deals with Satan never end well. Except for Satan.
You and Lou Lumenick of The New York Post think alike. Here's what he said:
"If M. Night Shyamalan sold his soul to the devil for the success of The Sixth Sense, I think His Satanic Majesty has finally collected in full with The Last Airbender." |
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| billyweeds |
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 4:32 pm |
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Marc wrote: Airbender will open with about $60 million. It cost $85 million. It may turn a profit but will result in the planned on trilogy. It's a franchise killer.
I'm assuming you left out the word "not." Right?
I'm not so sure about the profit thing. Word of mouth on this flick is the worst I've seen in a long time. Fans of the anime Airbender are beyond disappointed. They are fighting mad. |
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| Syd |
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 6:04 pm |
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| The reviews are the most savage I've seen in a while. |
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