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Marj
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As a non-American I get very upset by things that happen in your country, like Sarah Palin, the moronic and dangerous religious fascists, the ridiculous corporate friendly, bloated heath care bill, the ever-declining educational system, the high percentage of 50's mentality re: gays and abortion and drug laws and the insular jingoistic mentality. I am disgusted with what the progressives in the US have to put up with. I never had any desire to be an American, though I think it is a great country in many respects, but considering the current situation I am very happy that I wasn't born in the United States. As a citizen I don't know if I could take it. Though, maybe living in NYC would insulate me from all the yahoos and their influence. I really feel bad for my American friends and family. You live in interesting times. I think the die hard blue states should join Canada. We could use your initiative and you could use our secular liberalism. And possibly stanch any effort by our right to make us into the United States.

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Unfortunately, I'm afraid there are an awful lot of "yahoos" in New York, judging by the letters to the editor in the Daily News. And there are some very intelligent people in South Carolina, despite my sister's voting record and their dopey congressmen. But the trend is for NYC to attract liberals and the southern states to stew in a heavily individualistic, gun-loving, government-griping ambiance. In fact, one reason I left SC was Strom Thurmond--a consummate politician who knew almost everybody in the state by name. That's how he kept getting re-elected, long after I'd left for Manhattan.
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marantzo
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Unfortunately, I'm afraid there are an awful lot of "yahoos" in New York, judging by the letters to the editor in the Daily News.


Car, you have to consider the demographic of The Daily News. When I spent a lot of time in NY back in the late 50's early 60's The Daily News and Mirror were to the right of centre (I think the Mirror was more centrist) but Communism was their main target. The New York Post was left of centre, some would say far left of centre (by American standards). I would read them in the subway and at Dubrow's Cafeteria on Eastern Parkway in Brooklyn having my late night (big) snack amongst all the bookies, petty criminals and communists. Luckily for me I wasn't in town when they had a drive by machine gun assault that killed a number of regulars on the street by the news stand. I guess some of the criminals weren't all that petty. Ah, those were the days. Howard Hughes being sought by the government, Lana Turner's daughter stabbing her (Lana's) boyfriend Johnny Stompanato to death. Juicy stuff, tailor made for tabloids.

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My son and daughter-in-law were in Charlotte (I think) and were taken on a tour by a tour guide who kept describing the slave era as actually beneficial. My son told me that South Carolina was the most racist state he'd ever been in and his wife is from Alabama and they live in Georgia. Rolling Eyes

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Old Sparky is the nickname of the electric chairs in Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Kentucky, Louisiana, Ohio, New York, Texas, and Virginia. It was the nickname of the long-retired electric chair at the now-closed West Virginia State Penitentiary in Moundsville, West Virginia; the electric chair is still at the prison, which is now a tourist attraction.[1] It was also the nickname of the electric chair in South Carolina that was installed in 1912 at the Central Correctional Institution (CCI) [2] until the chair was relocated to the newly built Broad River Correctional Institution, where it was most recently opted for by convicted murderer James Earl Reed as his means of execution on June 21, 2008.

"Old Sparky" is sometimes used to refer to electric chairs in general, and not one of a specific state.

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Thanks for that information Daffy. It would be nice to see you on the site more often. I enjoy your updates of the movies showing at you bartender site also.

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carrobin
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Marantz: I well remember the old New York Post (owned by Dorothy Schiff, right?) when it was a very good newspaper. When I arrived in NYC in 1968, I was reading both the Post and the News--the Post for the columnists, the News for the comic strips. Now I just read the News, and the Times online. I stuck with the Post for a while for Liz Smith and the publishing coverage, but when they fired Liz, I stopped buying it.
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Trish
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daffy wrote:


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billyweeds
Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:51 am Reply with quote
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The New York Daily News is now far left of the Post.
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marantzo
Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:27 am Reply with quote
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billyweeds wrote:
The New York Daily News is now far left of the Post.


That doesn't take much. Laughing When Murdoch took over the paper it was he made a hard right turn, but all NYers know that. He also turned it into a scandal rag which is fun to read but over-the-top. I only know the paper from when I used to visit NYC in my late teens and very early 20s. When I live in NY in the early 70's I rarely read the tabloids so I don't know if it were the same rather respectable paper that I remember.

The Mirror has been gone for a long time, hasn't it?

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When I moved to NYC in 1968, the only daily papers were the News, the Post, the Times, and Newsday (which wasn't Manhattan-based, so I ignored it). For a while I was trying to read all three (the Post being a good paper then), but it wasn't possible. Now I read the News for the comics and the local news, and the Times online for the opinion page and world news and of course my beloved Paul Krugman, He Who Is Always Regretfully Right.
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Marj
Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 2:33 pm Reply with quote
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Gary, you're right. The Mirror is long gone. I have no memory of it, but my dad used to read it, when we lived in New Rochelle.
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Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 2:37 pm Reply with quote
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marantzo wrote:
billyweeds wrote:
The New York Daily News is now far left of the Post.


That doesn't take much. Laughing When Murdoch took over the paper it was he made a hard right turn, but all NYers know that. He also turned it into a scandal rag which is fun to read but over-the-top. I only know the paper from when I used to visit NYC in my late teens and very early 20s. When I live in NY in the early 70's I rarely read the tabloids so I don't know if it were the same rather respectable paper that I remember.

The Mirror has been gone for a long time, hasn't it?


When I came to NYC in 1962 there were six daily papers--the Times, the Herald-Tribune, the Daily News, the Post, The Mirror, and the Journal-American. The first three were morning papers, the others afternoon. It was great. Sigh. And baseball games used to be played in the afternoon on weekdays. Sigh again.
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