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Joe Vitus
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:26 pm Reply with quote
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I never think of Shepard as a funny writer (I like some of his work, but he's not a favorite of mine). I'm going to look up the script.

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carrobin
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:43 pm Reply with quote
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The only other Shepard play I really remember well was "True West" with Randy and Dennis Quaid. The way Randy Quaid said the line "How can that be?" sticks with me even now as hilarious. (It had to do with there being four women of the same name in Bakersfield, as I recall.)
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Joe Vitus
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 3:39 am Reply with quote
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I don't think I've read True West, either. Fool For Love may be the most recent thing I know (and that's from quite a while back).

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marantzo
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:49 am Reply with quote
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When I first heard of Sam Shepard, the writer, I thought he was the Dr. Sheppard who was convicted of murdering his wife and then had his conviction overturned years later. It was quite a while later before I realized that it was a different Sam Sheppard. I didn't notice their names were spelled differently.

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carrobin
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:24 am Reply with quote
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It's hard to imagine reading a play without hearing the actors. After I saw "Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead" I read the play--it does help to read Stoppard's plays--and then I saw the play again (the last Broadway performance). Still one of my favorite plays (and John Wood is still one of my favorite actors, though hard to find). I've often read a play after seeing it. But I never saw Alan Bates do "Butley" on stage, and after it became my favorite film, I finally had the chance to see it onstage with another actor. Not the same play at all. I had very little sympathy with the character--and if I'd seen that play first, I'd never have bothered to see the movie. Yet all the lines were exactly the same.
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Joe Vitus
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 2:38 pm Reply with quote
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Well, I can see why you'd say that, but I grew up in the theater, and I've been reading plays for a long time. I get quite a bit of enjoyment out of them, and more so than seeing a second rate production. Of course, if you live in New York, you are probably less likely to encounter a second rate production than I do down here. Smile

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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 5:27 pm Reply with quote
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I love, Love, LOVE "R&GrD"! Also love Stoppard.

I saw Philip Seymour Hoffman and John C. Reilly do "True West" on B'way. They were alternating parts -- the evening we went PSH was the "bad" brother. I wanted to go again to see the reversal, but it had sold out before I had a chance to.

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Joe Vitus
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 9:45 pm Reply with quote
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I like R&G, too. Got in trouble in my Intro to Dramatic Lit class for saying it was a cute little comedy. Wish I'd seen True West on one night. On alternate nights would have been great.

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carrobin
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 9:57 pm Reply with quote
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Ever see the "Rosencrantz & Guildenstern" film? It's very odd but strangely likeable, very different from the play but trying hard to keep the ambiance. I love Richard Dreyfuss as the Player King, hamming it up and obviously having a great time.
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Joe Vitus
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:16 am Reply with quote
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I have avoided the movie because the whole conceit is theatrical (what are the characters doing in the limbo all characters are consigned to when not onstage) and seemingly not adaptable to cinema. But this is probably a mistake on my part, since I've heard nothing but good things about it. Should add to my Netflix queue.

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carrobin
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:21 am Reply with quote
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The first time I saw the film (for our class), I sort of liked it and sort of didn't--it's so different from the play, but different from any other movie as well. I've seen it a few times since then and like it better each time. (Since Dreyfuss and Gary Oldman are two of my favorite actors, I see it whenever it comes up on TV, though that isn't often.)
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Joe Vitus
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:27 am Reply with quote
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You've got good taste in actors. I'm adding it to my queue.

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billyweeds
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:01 am Reply with quote
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Saw and heard a marvelous concert version of the opera The Grapes of Wrath at Carnegie Hall tonight. Narrated by Jane Fonda and performed by Tony Award winning actresses Victoria Clark and Christine Ebersole and opera star Nathan Gunn, with an ace supporting cast, this Ricky Ian Gordon/Michael Korie work is like a piece of opera for Broadway, in more or less the style of The Most Happy Fella. It's been performed around the country, but one could scarcely ask for a better sung or acted rendition. And Fonda narrating the property that gave her father one of his signature roles was just icing on the cake. Jane did a great job, too.
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marantzo
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:14 am Reply with quote
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Thanks Billy. I can't wait for it to come to Medellin.

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carrobin
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:30 am Reply with quote
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I hadn't even known that was happening. Not that I would have gone--I'm up against three deadlines at the moment--but I like to know what I'm missing, darn it.
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