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Befade
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:24 pm Reply with quote
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How about that movie with Meryl Streep where Cher plays the lesbian roomate?

Little Ashes should have been better. I would not recommend it unless you want to see Robert Pattinson almost naked and jerking off.........He plays Salvador Dali who has come to university in Madrid where he befriends Luis Bunuel and Federico Garcia Lorca. Dali is not a favorite artist of mine and this film takes him from a shy, girlish daredevil to an unlikeable characature (sp?) of a passionate artiste. These were 3 major creative forces who influenced each other and should have been portrayed better

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Joe Vitus
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:09 pm Reply with quote
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billyweeds wrote:
Cage goes so far, makes such intrigung, iconoclastic acting choices, that they are apt either to score heavily or to land with a tremendous thud. The genius of Werner Herzog's direction of The Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans was that he managed to make a performance which in another context could have been a Cage disaster and turn it into a triumph.

Other Cage outings that IMO were magnificent but on that coulda-been-awful edge are Snake Eyes and Vampire's Kiss.

Cage debacles were Peggy Sue Got Married, Deadfall, and what I've seen of The Wicker Man.

Cage can also do excellent "mainstream" acting like Guarding Tess, Adaptation, The Family Man, and The Weather Man.


Oh, The Wicker Man. So bad, without IMO becoming so-bad-its-good.

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Joe Vitus
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:11 pm Reply with quote
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billyweeds wrote:
I thought Cher was pretty good in Moonstruck though not great and not worthy of the Oscar she won for it. Where she was fantastic was in Mask. A great performance for which she wasn't even nominated. Ridic.


Well, Moonstruck was an Oscar-winner type performance. Which is not the same thing as a well-modulated, thoughful performance. I liked her in both roles. A girl I knew who hung out with bikers would get furious when I said Cher in Mask was playing herself. "She's a rocker chick, not a biker chick. They are totally different things and she caught what a biker chick was like." This is probably true.

Haven't seen either movie in years.

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billyweeds
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:17 pm Reply with quote
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Not to mention that Cher wasn't playing herself in Mask whether she was rocker or biker. Cher was closer to glam diva than rocker or biker. In Mask she did create the vibe of a biker and had superb chemistry with both lover Sam Elliott and son Eric Stoltz. She and Stoltz became great friends making that film and Stoltz, who is a super fellow, liked her enormously, which says a lot for her.

Mask was an important step in the evolution of Sam Elliott into countercultural elder statesman, a role he has espoused in such varied projects as Roadhouse, The Big Lebowski, and Marc's very own Off the Map. Elliott is a particular idol of mine.


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Joe Vitus
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:18 pm Reply with quote
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Is Stoltz a super fellow? I'm glad to hear that, because for some reason I've gotten a bad vibe from him over the years. Very happy to know I'm wrong. Is he gay? Are you at liberty to say?

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Joe Vitus
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:19 pm Reply with quote
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By the way, taking advice from you and Marc and added Off the Map to my Netflix queue.

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billyweeds
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Joe--I feel perfectly at liberty to say that Eric Stoltz is not gay as far as I know and from all evidence. My experience with Eric is that he played my daughter's older brother in the 1988 Broadway production of Our Town with the late great Spalding Gray (succeeded by Don Ameche) as the Stage Manager and Penelope Ann Miller (succeeded by Helen Hunt) in the female lead. Stoltz was extremely kind and supportive to my daughter, who was then 12 years old, and wore a special earring that she gave him on the Tony awards that year.

About Miller, other things, not nearly so nice. About Hunt, still others, quite a bit nicer, and surprising in view of what she's turned into in recent years.
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Marc
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:59 pm Reply with quote
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I saw Stoltz and his then girlfriend Bridget Fonda canoodling at the Loews on 18th st. during a screening of SE7EN.
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billyweeds
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:02 pm Reply with quote
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Marc wrote:
I saw Stoltz and his then girlfriend Bridget Fonda canoodling at the Loews on 18th st. during a screening of SE7EN.


I went with Stoltz and several others to the opening midnight showing of The Fly 2, in which he starred. What a hoot.
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marantzo
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:08 pm Reply with quote
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Marc wrote:
I saw Stoltz and his then girlfriend Bridget Fonda canoodling at the Loews on 18th st. during a screening of SE7EN.


I wish I had someone to canoodle with when I saw Se7en. Then it wouldn't have been a total loss.
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marantzo wrote:
Marc wrote:
I saw Stoltz and his then girlfriend Bridget Fonda canoodling at the Loews on 18th st. during a screening of SE7EN.


I wish I had someone to canoodle with when I saw Se7en. Then it wouldn't have been a total loss.


Necking at Se7en reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where shame was brought down upon Jerry because he made out in the balcony during Schindler's List.
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marantzo
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:15 pm Reply with quote
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I thought of that too.
Marc
Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:19 am Reply with quote
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Revanche a best foreign film nominee this year is an absolute stunner. I'll review tomorrow. It's available on Netflix as a streaming freebee. Run don't walk and fucking see this film!
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gromit
Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 5:03 am Reply with quote
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Revanche a best foreign film nominee this year is an absolute stunner. I'll review tomorrow. It's available on Netflix as a streaming freebee. Run don't walk and fucking see this film!

I thought Revanche was a bit of an arthouse igloo. There is a certain integrity to the film, but some of the slow tenseness felt forced and familiar.
Janus films picked it up for distribution, and it's coming out on Criterion Dvd shortly. If it's streaming for free, people only need to run to their computers.
If you liked Revanche, you might also like The Silence of Lorna and Gomorrah.

Befade, Little Ashes was disappointing.
Seems like they needed a bigger budget and a better script. So in the end it seems like a slightly puffed up Tv movie. I seem to recall a few good scenes, but mostly frustration that the film didn't have much direction or inspiration. I think Paul Morrison focuses on the sexual dynamics too much.

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Marj
Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:57 am Reply with quote
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Thanks Marc.
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