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| marantzo |
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John McTiernan, he made some good movies. What happened? Brosnan is making Thomas Crown 2. Good luck.
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:33 pm |
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marantzo wrote: Just saw about the last twenty minutes of the Brosnan/Rene Russo version of The Thomas Crown Affair. Boy did it look like crap.
Strongly disagree. Not that I exactly loved it, but it was very enjoyable IMO. And waaaaaaay baetter than the McQueen-Dunaway debacle.
Btw I don't usually like Russo, but did here. So different strokes. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:50 pm |
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Never saw the McQueen-Dunaway original. I only saw the last 20 minutes so maybe I needed the first hour and a half to get into it.
I'm not a Brosnan fan, but he was way good in Matador. A movie where he played against type. He should do more movies where he isn't the suave thief/secret agent etc, but I guess he likes the money. |
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| Marc |
| Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 1:34 am |
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| Just got thru watching A Serious Man, which was basically an ordeal. Excruciating. Was it supposed to be funny? |
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| Marc |
| Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 1:55 am |
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| A Serious Man is a Woody Allen movie on brown acid. The Coen Brothers working through their self-loathing Jew trip is perhaps cathartic for them but is an ordeal for the viewer. The mise-en-scene is a tired retread of so many films that mock suburban ticky tacky - the perfectly trimmed lawns, the cookie cutter ranch homes. We've seen it a multitude of times, from Edward Scissorhands to The Straight Story. The film is hardly worth investing any energy into criticizing. The only moments of interest are a few teases that turn out to be (oh no, not again) dreams. It was nice to hear some Hendrix and Airplane on the soundtrack. But, I already have those on vinyl. A Serious Man is a serious mistake. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 7:40 am |
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Marc, on my post on the other thread where I said I was eager to see what you thought of A Serious Man, I was going to add, "Everyone liked it, so I'm guessing you won't," I wish now that I'd included that. 
The Coen's grew up in St. Louis Park and the lawns etc. are kept in very good shape but people have mentioned the cookie cutter homes and I remember it having very nice and varied ranch styled bungalows and two story jobs. Maybe the dates we had there just lived in the wealthier park of St. Louis Park.
The movie hasn't made it here yet, and may never make it. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:34 am |
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marantzo wrote: Marc, on my post on the other thread where I said I was eager to see what you thought of A Serious Man, I was going to add, "Everyone liked it, so I'm guessing you won't," I wish now that I'd included that.
This isn't quite fair to Marc. Once in a blue moon his opinion gibes with the majority, i.e., The Hurt Locker. (Must admit I was initially flabbergasted that he liked it.)
Then there's Adventureland, Public Enemies, Drag Me to Hell, and Bava/Argento/etc. He's definitely in the Third Eye minority on those. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:25 am |
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| I liked Public Enemies a lot and Drag Me To Hell well enough not to be pissed that I went to see it. Haven't seen the others. Marc did like DMTH a lot lot more than I did. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:27 am |
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| And I was going to write that as a little joke, not a criticism. But I was expecting a negative review. |
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| whiskeypriest |
| Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:48 am |
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Marc wrote: A Serious Man is a Woody Allen movie on brown acid. The Coen Brothers working through their self-loathing Jew trip is perhaps cathartic for them but is an ordeal for the viewer. The mise-en-scene is a tired retread of so many films that mock suburban ticky tacky - the perfectly trimmed lawns, the cookie cutter ranch homes. We've seen it a multitude of times, from Edward Scissorhands to The Straight Story. The film is hardly worth investing any energy into criticizing. The only moments of interest are a few teases that turn out to be (oh no, not again) dreams. It was nice to hear some Hendrix and Airplane on the soundtrack. But, I already have those on vinyl. A Serious Man is a serious mistake. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 12:12 pm |
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whiskeypriest wrote: Marc wrote: A Serious Man is a Woody Allen movie on brown acid. The Coen Brothers working through their self-loathing Jew trip is perhaps cathartic for them but is an ordeal for the viewer. The mise-en-scene is a tired retread of so many films that mock suburban ticky tacky - the perfectly trimmed lawns, the cookie cutter ranch homes. We've seen it a multitude of times, from Edward Scissorhands to The Straight Story. The film is hardly worth investing any energy into criticizing. The only moments of interest are a few teases that turn out to be (oh no, not again) dreams. It was nice to hear some Hendrix and Airplane on the soundtrack. But, I already have those on vinyl. A Serious Man is a serious mistake. Well, marc. except that it is nothing like Edward Scissorhands at all, and it does not so much mock "suburban ticky tacky" as it is set in a Midwestern suburb in the 1960's. The movie's concerns are with God, faith, physics, and trying to cobble together a system of meaning out of possibly meaningless uncertainty, not a critique of 60's culture.
Yeah, I meant to say that. Edward Fucking Scissorhands? The Straight Fucking Story? I can more clearly see the Woody Allen comparison, though IMO A Serious Man is way better than any movie Allen ever made except Manhattan, which is not one of the Woody Allen movies it resembles. |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 12:51 pm |
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The visual depiction of the suburbs in A Serious Man is similar to the way they
are depicted in Edward Scissorhands and The Straight Story. Thus my use of the words mise-en-scene. Get it? |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 12:57 pm |
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| I will give A Serious Man a second viewing at some point. I've been wrong before about films. I hated E.T. the first time I saw it and eventually grew to love it. |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 1:00 pm |
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Marc wrote: The visual depiction of the suburbs in A Serious Man is similar to the way they
are depicted in Edward Scissorhands and The Straight Story. Thus my use of the words mise-en-scene. Get it?
I'm not seeing Straight Story. No way, no how. You cannot fool me again! |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 3:14 pm |
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| You should see The Straight Story. It has none of the strange quirks of other Lynch movies. It is a straight story. |
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