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| Syd |
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Quote: Syd -Do you mean the 3 parts of Henry VI?
No, I meant Richard II. The play gets better as it goes on and poor doomed Richard starts to wax poetic. |
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| Syd |
| Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:54 pm |
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| I remember seeing a really good Taming of the Shrew in the late seventies, but don't remember the details. It may well have been the BBC version. |
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| lady wakasa |
| Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:14 pm |
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Syd wrote: I remember seeing a really good Taming of the Shrew in the late seventies, but don't remember the details. It may well have been the BBC version.
Hunh - I wonder if it's the one I remember, there *was* a good version from that time period. |
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| Syd |
| Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:18 pm |
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It's this one directed by my hero Jonathan Miller with John Cleese and it was part of the BBC series:
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0081597/
If IMDb's any judge, this version with Marc Singer's even better.
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0125534/ |
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| Marc |
| Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:23 pm |
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| "Not Quite Hollywood" is a terrific documentary about Australian exploitation films of the 70s. From horror to soft core to biker and fast cars, the Australian film industry produced an amazing amount of B-movies that delivered the goods. NQH which includes enthusiastic narration by Quentin Tarantino is a lot of fun. |
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| Marc |
| Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:45 pm |
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| YALE BEATS HARVARD 29/29 is another good one. |
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| lady wakasa |
| Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:55 pm |
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I think it was #2 I saw... done on a stage, but pretty engaging for all that. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 9:30 pm |
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| Watched Once Upon a Time in the West last night. It really knocked me out. About as visually sumptuous as a movie can be. I also found the characters more compelling than in the Dollars trilogy. Want to say more...but my break's up. Maybe more later. |
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| Marc |
| Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:03 pm |
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| About 20 years or so ago, Martin Scorsese presented "Once Upon A Time In The West" at the Film Forum, NYC. It was a restored 70mm print. Of course, I went. Talk about a widescreen experience. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:04 am |
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It must have been amazing on the big screen. It's amazing enough at home. I had to watch it again tonight. The way Leone wallows in those images, those stories, that score. It's overwhelming.
I'm finding these days I really dig the earlier pre-Death Wish Bronson. Harmonica is probably his best performance. And though Jason Robards is kinda an odd choice, it's an interesting odd choice. Since I never cared much for Henry Fonda, seeing him turn villain isn't the big deal it probably is for a lot of movie buffs, but I like him in the part. And Claudia Cardinale. Wow.
Only two things really irritate me. The big one is the post-dubbing. I know it's typical for Italian movies of the time, but it really causes a disconnect, especially with the secondary characters, whose voices don't match their bodies, and sound hollow anyway. But also early on with Cardinale where her mouth and her voice are clearly out of synch. There's a similar problem with Harmonica's harmonica playing. It's so clearly an overdub and not coming from the source on the screen.
The minor one, and this will likely strike some as a completely ridiculous criticism: the title card doesn't appear until the end of the movie. Most of the other credits appear at the beginning, everyone all the way down to the minor technicians. No title. Which creates a kind of anxious feeling, as if the movie hasn't really started. I expected it after the arrival of the train, then after the introduction of each of the major characters, wondering if this were an elaborate pre-credit section. Then (the first time I watched the movie) I wondered if I missed it somehow. It creates a weird, "unfinished" quality. I get the reason thematically, I guess. This is a story about the beginning of the west, and it keeps going as the rail keeps going, even after the story we see is finished (significantly, the title lands on the rails upside down and then shoots off in the forward-moving distance). But it's irritating. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:03 am |
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Joe--I haven't seen Once Upon a Time in the West (I've tried but can't seem to get into it, though I adore The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly).
But your "minor" criticism is one I can relate to. As an old-timer, I prefer the old kind of credits which appear at the beginning of the movie. Strange placements of credits always strike me as affected, and, yes, they create an anxious feeling as if the movie hadn't begun. Good point. When "teasers" first began--a scene or two before the opening credits to get you hooked on the story--I rather liked them, but then it became a cliche. And now the trend is to make the opening credit just the title, with all the credits at the end. Hate it. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:10 am |
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| Just bought three (3) copies of The Room from Amazon for $8.99 a pop. What a Christmas gift for the right kind of people! |
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| gromit |
| Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:00 am |
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Joe Vitus wrote:
I'm finding these days I really dig the earlier pre-Death Wish Bronson. Harmonica is probably his best performance.
Funny you should mention that. Two years after the Leone, while still working in Europe, Bronson starred in Rider on the Rain (1970), which I just watched a few days ago. It's a suspense-thriller starring Bronson, and oddly enough directed by Rene Clement. It's a pretty good film, moody, and keeps us off-balance about whether Bronson's character is good or bad, and how he has as much information as he does. Something like a good Chabrol film.
Mostly a taut thriller, with a few goofy scenes and a close that leaves an obvious loose end or two. The resolution between Bronson and sexy-boyish Marlène Jobert is fine enough, but there's the small matter that the gang knows who she is now, where she lives and is still missing their sizable chunk of cash.
Bronson gets to do a lot here. He does take off his shirt a few times for the expected beefcake moments, but he has a good deal of dialogue, and plenty of scenes. Worth checking out for Bronson fans.
The following year, he made Red Sun, which has an all-star international cast but a rather thin script and is fairly cheesy in a distinctly early 70's fashion. |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:05 am |
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gromit wrote: He does take off his short a few times....
Is this half of his shorts? Interesting concept. |
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| gromit |
| Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:02 am |
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They told him to strip to the waist, and he chose the wrong direction. So they caught him halfway and ...
Spell-check couldn't save me on that one. |
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