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| Ghulam |
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marantzo wrote: I like The Long Hot Summer also.
Drag Me To Hell ....I didn't know it did poorly at the box office. I thought it did well.
It never came to our multiplex or the dinner theater. I was planning to see it in Saratoga Springs, but before I could, it was gone!
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:14 pm |
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billyweeds wrote: What a Way to Go! is another example of Newman trying comedy and falling on his handsome face, along with a host of other superstars doing the same. This would include Shirley MacLaine in the lead. This is a truly cretinous movie.
Out of curiosity, is the musical number between MacLaine and Gene Kelly worth a look? |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:54 pm |
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Joe Vitus wrote: billyweeds wrote: What a Way to Go! is another example of Newman trying comedy and falling on his handsome face, along with a host of other superstars doing the same. This would include Shirley MacLaine in the lead. This is a truly cretinous movie.
Out of curiosity, is the musical number between MacLaine and Gene Kelly worth a look?
To be honest I can't remember the number, but believe me, if it were good I would remember. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:11 am |
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Marc wrote: ANVIL, THE STORY OF ANVIL may be best documentary about rock and roll I've seen. Shit, it may be the greatest movie about being an artist I've ever seen.
Agree completely. Saw this movie last night, and though it's not the greatest movie of my life, it's the first I can remember since Microcosmos that I can legitimately call "life-changing." It has started me on the road toward rethinking some of the relationships in my life that I had all but given up on. It made me laugh and cry and kvell. It's reminiscent of the wonderful documentary American Movie as well as This is Spinal Tap. I admire, love, and identify with "Lips" and Robb, the two fantastic guys at the heart of the titular heavy metal band. In a weird way, these two obsessive dudes are my new heroes. |
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| lissa |
| Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:45 am |
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| Sold - I'll put it on my list. Anvil being a Canadian band, I will enjoy national pride as well as entertainment value. |
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| gromit |
| Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:33 am |
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And "Lips" probably works at your kids school.
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Re-watched The Asphalt Jungle.
What a masterful ensemble cast of character actors. And all of the characters are sketched in well, so they are distinctive and seem like they have real lives outside of the film.
There's good pacing, nice camerawork, and an interesting heist plot. But it all is held together by the well-drawn characters and great casting.
Really a classic. Though the ending with the preachy police commissioner speech (to appease the Censors?) followed by the melodrama of Hayden's end are a bit odd. But they do effectively wrap things up, and are brief.
It's like the French spent the rest of the 50's imitating Asphalt Jungle. While Kubrick most likely tapped Sterling Hayden for The Killing due to this Huston's gem. |
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| lissa |
| Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:05 pm |
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gromit - after I see the film, I'll be able to tell you about "Lips"...maybe even catch him at the next assembly...  |
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| Marc |
| Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:09 pm |
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Quote: In a weird way, these two obsessive dudes are my new heroes.
Robb and Lips could be the Julia Cameron (The Artists Way) of rock and roll.
The Anvil Way. I'm serious. These guys have a coherent philosophy about art that is both practical and spiritual. It's all about believing in your self and not giving up. Robb and Lips are two regular guys who are literally transformed by their art into something approaching the heroic. |
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| Marc |
| Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:16 pm |
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| Robb and Lips are two sweet sensitive guys playing some of the dumbest music you'll ever hear. Heavy metal is generally dumb, but Anvil border on self-parody. Having said that, there's no questioning their chops as musicians. They can play like motherfuckers. It's just at the service of really silly music. "Thumbhang"! |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:38 pm |
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Marc wrote: Robb and Lips are two sweet sensitive guys playing some of the dumbest music you'll ever hear. Heavy metal is generally dumb, but Anvil border on self-parody. Having said that, there's no questioning their chops as musicians. They can play like motherfuckers. It's just at the service of really silly music. "Thumbhang"!
I frankly don't know what's good and bad in heavy metal music. But I do know that Anvil's signature tune "Metal on Metal" was strongly reminiscent of Spinal Tap's hilariously awful "Big Bottom." "MonM" was pretty dumb. But not Lips and Robb. I really love them. I admire them. I'd like to meet them. |
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| gromit |
| Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:52 pm |
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Correction: Big Bottom is hilariously great.
Marc, have you seen Metallica, Some Kind of Monster? I thought some of the lyrics and the song-writing process itself were kind of dopey and superficial, but then when they put it together with the band and gave it their sound, it was surprisingly effective heavy metal.
I actually was a heavy metal fan for a few short years in junior high school. Even went to a Ted Nugent concert with AC/DC opening, at MSG, because I was an early AC/DC fan. I guess I was 13 or 14 and already moving on to much better rock music by 9th grade. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:03 pm |
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| The closest I have gotten to heavy metal is my friendship with Tommy Shaw, who was in Damn Yankees with Ted Nugent, who is sort of metalish. (Unlike Lips in that scene in Anvil!, I got to meet Nugent.) I think I would never be a headbanger, however. |
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| Marc |
| Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:35 pm |
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Gromit, I did see Some Kind Of Monster. It was interesting to see how neurotic these macho metal guys are in real life. Underneath the Conan Barbarian exterior there's an Orson Bean.
I can truly say I've never been remotely a metal fan. I admire the playing of bands like Slayer and Mastodon. They are as precise and tight as any musicians on the planet and some of them are surprisingly inventive musically: weird time signatures, polyrythms, and breaks. But, the songwriting has always turned me off. And these days every metal singer sounds exactly the same: like Darth Vader. |
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| lady wakasa |
| Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:36 pm |
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billyweeds wrote: The closest I have gotten to heavy metal is my friendship with Tommy Shaw, who was in Damn Yankees with Ted Nugent, who is sort of metalish. (Unlike Lips in that scene in Anvil!, I got to meet Nugent.) I think I would never be a headbanger, however.
What about Timdog & Guns 'n Roses? |
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| lissa |
| Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:44 pm |
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I got into metal via Guitar Hero and Rock Band. And I'm good!  |
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