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| billyweeds |
 Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:33 pm |
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marantzo wrote: carrobin wrote: The critics really piled the thumbs-downs on "Surrogates" and the posters made it look like some kind of kinky sex flick. I don't know anyone who's seen it--except you, now.
It is certainly not some kind of kinky sex flick. That's funny. I'm going to check some reviews to see how they mistakenly judged it.
It got a ton of good reviews along with the bad. |
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| carrobin |
| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:54 pm |
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| I don't know whether any interviewers mentioned sex in "Surrogates," but the posters showed a man (in one) and a woman (in the other), half dressed, in suggestive positions, with the nude part of the body showing mechanical links. It certainly didn't look like a detective/suspense thriller. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:28 pm |
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Well posters....They could make a great coffee table book filled with posters that have nothing to do with the film they are promoting.
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It got a ton of good reviews along with the bad.
Ah, good. That makes a lot more sense. Now I'm going to look up some. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:06 pm |
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OK, the first small review by Dargis is just silly. She? (I'd bet she's a she) he? says: "Idealized types — which, because this is a Hollywood movie, means a lot of balloon breasts and itty-bitty noses..."
Dargis doesn't seem to have been watching or listening very carefully. People can pick their own kind of look for their surrogates. What woman wouldn't pick one that looked like their idea of beauty and I'm sure the guys who pick a female surrogate would also want a beautiful one. |
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| lady wakasa |
| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:11 pm |
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marantzo wrote: OK, the first small review by Dargis is just silly. She? (I'd bet she's a she) he? says: "Idealized types — which, because this is a Hollywood movie, means a lot of balloon breasts and itty-bitty noses..."
Dargis doesn't seem to have been watching or listening very carefully. People can pick their own kind of look for their surrogates. What woman wouldn't pick one that looked like their idea of beauty and I'm sure the guys who pick a female surrogate would also want a beautiful one.
Dargis also completely missed the boat on Lust, Caution. Maybe she's just incapable of getting beyond sex issues in movies that use them to tell a story? Who knows. |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:58 pm |
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Read a few reviews. Could'nt find many. The one from Reuters (no byline) was just stupid. A couple of others were similar. The best review which was a positive one, was very funny, and reading it I was hoping that it would be favourable and it was. giving it a B. I hate to read a funny well written review and then find out that it has a different opinion than mine. 
The comments I read have been mixed. Usually hating it or liking it a lot. Once again, happily, the comments that hated it made little sense as far as the movie was concerned. One commentor summed up his short dismissal by saying that Surrogates makes District 9 look like a masterpiece. Obviously thinking that District 9 is some kind of dreck. No sense paying attention to his comments. The favourable comments pretty well echoed my opinion except for one where the wife of the man who dragged her to the movie said that she was bored silly by the first half, but then it took off and she loved it. Gave it 4 out of 5. I wasn't bored at all by the first half. Can't figure out why she was. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:02 pm |
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| Lady, there aren't really any sex issues in Surrogates. Sex isn't absent, but it's vague and a non-issue as far as the story goes. |
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| whiskeypriest |
| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:06 pm |
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Quote: Dargis also completely missed the boat....
Dargis couldn't miss more boats if she lived in Kansas. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:18 pm |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:29 pm |
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whiskeypriest wrote: Quote: Dargis also completely missed the boat....
Dargis couldn't miss more boats if she lived in Kansas.
LOL. Whoever at the NYTimes who hired Dargis and Alessandra Stanley must hate women, because those two females have done less for the role of "female critic" than any I have ever seen. Pauline Kael must be rolling whenever Dargis or Stanley appear. |
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| Befade |
| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:45 pm |
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Am I the only one who has seen Capitalism: A Love Story?
It's worth a view. Moore seems to be able to find the downtrodden easily. I've been wondering lately which is valued more by our country.....capitalism or democracy. What the priests have to say was interesting........and the peasant life insurance was obscene. |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:55 pm |
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Moore wrote about Dead Peasnat Insurance as far back as Dude, Where's My Country. To purchase insurance on another person, you only need an insurable interest. That is to say, a monetary interest that would be adversely affected by the death of that person. So, for executives and managers whose death would cause a loss, either due to replacement costs or the like. Theoretically, it's a sound idea and the thought that the money should go to the families of the deceased misunderstands what is acutally being insured: not the life, but the value to the company. Theorectically. In the real world, it's farking ghoulish.
I suspect Capitalism is a rental for me. I get to so few movies, and with Job ala Coen , Men Who Stare at Goats, Precious Bones, Up in the Air, and a handful of other promising looking films to come, I need to budget that movie going experience. |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:17 pm |
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| It's obscene when it amounts to $80,000 on a young, female WalMart employee. |
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| Marc |
| Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 6:45 pm |
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| PARANORMAL ACTIVITY is doing unbelievable box office. It's per screen average is $16,000 which is $5,000 more than film cost to make. It's already grossed $4 million dollars. Talk about a return on your investment! I'm going to wait till my girlfriend gets to Austin (next weekend) to see it. But, the buzz is obviously very good. |
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| Earl |
| Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:01 am |
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Caught Zombieland with Joe last night. It's funny and way smarter than I expected it to be. I enjoyed the way the movie explored some of the positive things which would happen if 99% all humans were turned into something other than humans. The humans had a bunch of fun enjoying the little things like going into a deserted store and taking whatever supplies they wanted. Or golfing at an exclusive country club ("I just walked right on!"). Great fun, a lot of laughs and possibly the best product placement for Hostess I've ever seen.
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While reading Roger Ebert's review of Zombieland, I was surprised that he discussed openly and with no spoiler warning something which I believe the movie makers intended to be a surprise. I refer, of course, to the fact that a [SPOILER in white]well known movie star has a cameo as himself. He appears about half way through the story and his arrival is a treat.[END SPOILER] Perhaps Ebert felt that it was already an open secret and safe to discuss. But my hunch is that most people going into the movie in these first few weeks might not be aware of it. |
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