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| Marc |
 Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:54 pm |
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Billy,
I sent a message to Brian asking him to "friend" you. I don't know how often he checks his messages. but go ahead and make a friend request.
Yes, I know Ebner, but not well. A fellow shit stirrer. |
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| Befade |
| Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:03 pm |
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Is there a world outside of Facebook?
I have The Girlfriend Experience at the top of my netflix queue. Just remembered it the other day. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:06 pm |
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Marc wrote: Billy,
I sent a message to Brian asking him to "friend" you. I don't know how often he checks his messages. but go ahead and make a friend request.
Yes, I know Ebner, but not well. A fellow shit stirrer.
Thanks. I've known Mark for about 25 years or so. He's a provocateur, like you say, but a terrific fella.
Will make the Brian friend request. |
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| lissa |
| Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:08 pm |
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Yes, Betsy, there IS an outside world! (though you'd never know it from the latest threads around here!) *g* <---------
I'll have to check out The Girlfriend Experience - all this talk has me curious. |
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| gromit |
| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:22 am |
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billyweeds wrote: I really liked it a lot, and was further interested by the fact that our (formerly) own Tim Davis was in it, albeit in a tiny role. He was very good, though with no closeups, as the misogynist, possibly alcoholic friend of the leading man, sitting on a bar stool and soddenly raging against women as though they were forumites who didn't agree with him.
Glenn Kenny was indeed effective--very vividly hateful, which was the intention.
Billy, any idea roughly where Tim's scene is?
I thought the film was dullsville, but would re-watch a few minutes, especially to check out Tim.
And yes, the Glenn Kenny stuff was the highlight. I thought it was interesting watching Sasha Grey's stylish zombie for about 5 minutes, then it wore real thin. I could find a dozen more interesting people to follow around in one day on the NY streets ... but then the movie would probably be about creepy old Me. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:10 am |
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gromit wrote: billyweeds wrote: I really liked it a lot, and was further interested by the fact that our (formerly) own Tim Davis was in it, albeit in a tiny role. He was very good, though with no closeups, as the misogynist, possibly alcoholic friend of the leading man, sitting on a bar stool and soddenly raging against women as though they were forumites who didn't agree with him.
Glenn Kenny was indeed effective--very vividly hateful, which was the intention.
Billy, any idea roughly where Tim's scene is?
I would say about halfway through. When I was watching the movie, I of course was constantly on the lookout for Tim. When his scene appeared, I said to my wife, "I'm almost sure that's Tim" even though every male in the movie is to some degree interchangeable, and there were no closeups of Tim whatsoever. He is seen totally in profile sitting on a bar stool telling his friend, the leading man of the movie, how rotten women are. The scene takes approximately 20 seconds, I would say. For reference, it comes very shortly after Sasha Grey buys her prepaid phone and meets her older female friend for the first time.
Later on I checked in the cast list, which is "in order of appearance," and yes, I was right, the guy I thought was Tim was Tim.
I can understand your negative reaction to the film. It certainly is no dramatic thunderbolt, but I was prepared going in for a strangely cinema-verite, low-key take and therefore was very surprised at how moved I was by the drama that does unquestionably take place. |
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| gromit |
| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:26 am |
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Thanks, that should be easy enough to find.
I think that I thought at the time that that might be Tim. (say that 5 times fast).
It's funny that Tim was in a film where the main male character is a fitness trainer ... and it's not Tim. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:07 pm |
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gromit wrote: Thanks, that should be easy enough to find.
I think that I thought at the time that that might be Tim. (say that 5 times fast).
It's funny that Tim was in a film where the main male character is a fitness trainer ... and it's not Tim.
Especially since--and don't quote me on this--I think Tim was Soderbergh's trainer and that's how they met. |
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| gromit |
| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:57 pm |
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Gadzooks, From the Terrace is awful, dated claptrap. Newman looks constipated through half the film. Woodward is supposed to be a glamorous socialite but her peroxide blonde dye job looks like gray hair.
Atrocious plotting like something from 19th C lit -- ie. they are driving along having a mild argument and in the background a kid is skating and falls thru the ice, his nanny is petrified. They stop the car, Newman dives in and saves the kid, whose father happens to be a big head honcho on Wall Street and hires Newman in his top-drawer firm. Shake the chestnuts out of that one.
Another example is having Newman's father die on hsi wedding day.
Lots of 50's moralism, and Newman frustrated and unsure how to get out from the hypocrisy. Real dull stuff. Everything looks like freshly painted movie sets that might get knocked over at any moment. Lots of stagey talking and gestures, making it seem like this was originally a play (though it was adapted from a John O'Hara novel).
Plenty of crap dialogue.
All the conflicts are sketched in too quickly and cheesily. This film is like a museum piece of generic late 50's filmmaking. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:12 pm |
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| From the Terrace (or as my dad called it, From the Veranda), was a dull piece of crap. There was no shortage of filmed novels in that era which were awful. Butterfield 8 may be the best example. I think the book From the Terrace was also supposed to be a drag. I never read it though. Maybe like the book Marjorie Morningstar was supposed to be a dull as dishwater. I did see the movie and it certainly was. P U. Nice opening shot of NYC Central Park skyline though. I saw it in midtown Manhattan. |
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| gromit |
| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:14 pm |
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Terrace and Butterfield are both based on books by John O'Hara, who seems to have the dullest ideas of sexual daring.
Newman was particularly wooden in Terrace.
Myrna Loy plays his alcoholic mother in a small role.
Mark Robson directed From the Terrace, and seems to have been trying to match his earlier success with Peyton Place (which I've never seen). In between he directed The Inn of Sixth Happiness, which also has a bunch of contrived stagy coincidences and melodrama. But I like his The Harder They Fall even if it is a bit creaky and moralistic in parts -- Robson's signature apparently. |
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| whiskeypriest |
| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:34 pm |
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I just watched a fantastic adult (in the non-porn sense) animated movie called Sita Sings the Blues, which I had been anxious to see since Roger Ebert wrote about it in his blog last year. An absolutely fantastic film; beautiful to look at, funny, at time heart rending, and in the end exultant. It mixes an ancient Indian tale of a woman cruelly treated by her husband, despite her absolute love and fidelity, with a modern woman, similarly scorned, who ultimately finds... well, let the story work for you.
Among its many virtues: tremendous music, both original and beautiful old jazz songs from Annette Hanshaw - amazingly perfect, but then I guess female jazz songs probably suit themselves to the subject matter. The animation is refreshingly 2D - Pixar 3d would be incredibly out of place - and has at least four different styles, depending on the part of the story being told: shaky line drawings for the modern story, very formal, almost cut out characters for the "straight" version of the ancient story, and, during the musical portions, sort of a Betty Boop drawn by R Crumb look. Plus, there's a sort of chorus of shadow puppets narrating the movie - or trying to, since they cannot agree at times exactly what the story means, or even exactly what happens - at one point, they argue about whether a character lives or dies, or has a heart attack, or a stroke, while the character behind them goes through each fate, back and forth, with a sort of, make up your mind look on his face. It also has MONKEY WARRIORS! If that does not grab you, well, there's no hope for you.
Anyway, it's brilliant and original; a contender for my Top of the 00's. I highly recommend it to all of you, and am surprised no one here's talked about it.
Hi billy! |
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| lissa |
| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:43 pm |
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| Sounds great, whiskey, thanks for the heads up! |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:55 pm |
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lissa wrote: Sounds great, whiskey, thanks for the heads up!
You are aware, aren't you, Lissa, that I have had multiple orgasma about Sita on these forums? Whiskey is certainly aware. Look at his note, hidden in white, at the end of his post.
Yay Sita!!! |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:58 pm |
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Whiskey--I of course didn't notice your addition until I had gotten ready to write an angry retort.
You are altogether too cute and funny. Cute and funny is my territory. You've been warned. |
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