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| whiskeypriest |
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marantzo wrote: We are all over the map on this one. I liked Kill Bill I, but the last 20 minutes of Kill Bill II completely ruined it for me. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 6:39 pm |
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| The leg gun isn't in his part of Grindhouse, of course. It is in Terror Planet (I think that's the name) which is the first movie, by Rodriques (?) and it's a hoot. The only bad part of it ironically, is the part that Tarantino plays which is mercifully not long or important. If you see it, just watch the great fake previews at the beginning and then Terror Planet and skip Tarantino's piece of crap. |
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| Marc |
| Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 8:14 pm |
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| KILL BILL, both 1 and 2, didn't rock my world. The movies and directors Tarantino steals from (Battle Royale, The Blind Samurai, John Woo Ricky O, Tsui Hark...) are often far better than Quentin's homages. Tarantino is a like a cinematic deejay doing visual mashups. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 8:50 pm |
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| What can I say? I also prefer What's Up, Doc? to Bringing Up Baby. |
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| Marc |
| Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 8:54 pm |
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| I like What's Up Doc too. |
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| Marc |
| Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 8:55 pm |
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| Never could get into BRINGING UP BABY. |
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| ehle64 |
| Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 2:45 am |
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no wonder we clash -- Bringing Up Baby is a masterpiece.
I found Burn After Reading to be incredibly entertaining. What the fuck is so wrong with that aspect of filmmaking? No severed limbs or teeth=gnawing body parts. I'm in a league of MY OWN. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 3:48 am |
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I found Burn After Reading too hateful and condescending. The implication seems to be everyone in the world but the filmmakers (and the audience on their wavelength of course) are a bunch of destructive morons. The conscesention with which every character is treated really irriates me. I find that much more offensive than severed body parts.
To be honest I have much the same problem with Dr. Strangelove. Both movies chortle over the world's hopelessly fucked state and suggest no possibility for sane action. That brand of misanthropy is too easy.
I do think the final scene of Burn After Reading is funny. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 3:51 am |
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Marc wrote: Never could get into BRINGING UP BABY.
I know what you mean. And I wanted to. I've watched it a couple of times. But it's too forced and frantic for me, I guess. I like the second Hepburn/Grant pairing, Holiday. (The third if you count the very orginal but somewhat cruel Sylvia Scarlett. They're both in it, but they aren't a romantic couple). |
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| ehle64 |
| Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 5:15 am |
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Your attitude makes me wanna hurl. Contrariness, it salutes you.
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 7:49 am |
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I love Bringing Up Baby and Holiday.
BUB is frantic, true, but in a good way. You rarely see stars of the magnitude of Kate and Cary acting like such loons. I find this a blast. I love the way Hepburn keeps desperately singing "I Can't Give You Anything But Love, Baby." I love the way her butt is exposed when her dress splits. I love the way Grant says he's just suddenly gone gay. Gosh, there are so many things I love.
As for Holiday, it's the quintessence of romantic comedy, easily the equal of and perhaps better than The Philadelphia Story (both were written by Philip Barry). An underrated and unknown actress named Doris Nolan fills out the triangle beautifully. And Lew Ayres plays a drunk with unparalleled class. It's a gem, and deserves to achieve the kind of fame that BUB and TPS already have.
What's Up, Doc? is okay, but Streisand and O'Neal are no match for Hepburn and Grant. They (Barbra and Ryan) are in love with themselves, and it shows. |
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| whiskeypriest |
| Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 9:22 am |
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joe, marc -
You both deserve to be eaten by leopards. |
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| Marj |
| Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 12:32 pm |
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billyweeds wrote: I love Bringing Up Baby and Holiday.
BUB is frantic, true, but in a good way. You rarely see stars of the magnitude of Kate and Cary acting like such loons. I find this a blast. I love the way Hepburn keeps desperately singing "I Can't Give You Anything But Love, Baby." I love the way her butt is exposed when her dress splits. I love the way Grant says he's just suddenly gone gay. Gosh, there are so many things I love.
As for Holiday, it's the quintessence of romantic comedy, easily the equal of and perhaps better than The Philadelphia Story (both were written by Philip Barry). An underrated and unknown actress named Doris Nolan fills out the triangle beautifully. And Lew Ayres plays a drunk with unparalleled class. It's a gem, and deserves to achieve the kind of fame that BUB and TPS already have.
What's Up, Doc? is okay, but Streisand and O'Neal are no match for Hepburn and Grant. They (Barbra and Ryan) are in love with themselves, and it shows.
Too many "words" here to say much else.
Billy, you chose my very favorite aspects of BUB and Holiday. They're two of my old time favorites. I think BUB maybe the one and perhaps only film where Kate is an innocent of sorts. She get's to play dizzy but does so with such intelligence. |
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| Ghulam |
| Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 12:57 pm |
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Joe,
>> "found Burn After Reading too hateful and condescending. The implication seems to be everyone in the world but the filmmakers (and the audience on their wavelength of course) are a bunch of destructive morons."
Only the guys in the body building shop. They are of low average I.Q. rather than 'morons'. Gives all three of them a chance to turn in some of their best performances, especially Brad Pitt.
>> "I do think the final scene of Burn After Reading is funny."
In fact the three brief scenes featuring the CIA chief and his assistant are worth the price of the ticket. Played by J.K.Simmons and David Rasche. The latter is great in 'In the Loop' too.
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 2:12 pm |
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| I think Burn After Reading is one of the Coens' best second-rank films. I'm going to watch it again this week, and perhaps will upgrade my rating. It's horribly underrated. |
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