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| Marc |
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| Tarantino often cast actors against type. Look at how he used Travolta in PULP FICTION. He took a likeable goofball leading man and turned him into a coldhearted assassin. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:52 pm |
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| Hardly. He was going back to the Travolta persona of Kotter, Saturday Night Fever, and Grease. |
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| Marc |
| Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 11:00 pm |
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| I beg to differ. But, I could be wrong. I've never seen GREASE or Kotter. |
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| Befade |
| Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 11:54 pm |
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Quote: That is the excepted wisdom, but there are exceptions. William Shatner for one. He couldn't act worth a damn but in comic roles he has been excellent. Comedians in serious roles are often way too schmatzy.
So true. I had never watched Boston Legal but now that it's in reruns on a local station.......I am VERY into it. Love, love, love Shatner....Denny Crane. |
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| Befade |
| Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 11:56 pm |
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| Watched Tarentino on Charlie Rose today. Very enlightening. He pulls from so many venues to come up with his characters and plots. He was talking about Goebel's film viewing. Goebel thought Mrs. Miniver was the best example of anglo war propaganda. |
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| Ghulam |
| Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:26 am |
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| Col.Hans Lande in Inglourious Basterds is one of the most evil movie characters I have ever seen. The story is unbelievable, a faitytale. Its revenge theme as well as its long and talkative scenes remind one of Kill Bill Vol 2, although the ending is less satisfactory than in KB2. It aims to be a gory and suspenseful comedy, and it succeeds extremely well in being that. Each frame and each scene is perfect. A very entertaining movie. |
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| McBain |
| Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:05 am |
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marantzo wrote: That is the excepted wisdom, but there are exceptions. William Shatner for one. He couldn't act worth a damn but in comic roles he has been excellent. Comedians in serious roles are often way too schmatzy.
I disagree. Yes, yes, I'm a big Star Trek fan, but I think its too easy to dismiss Shatner. He's a much more clever actor than people give him credit for. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:24 am |
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I don't entirely disagree with you, McBain. There are many times in Star Trek where it's obvious that Shatner is goofing around, but when he has to be serious or commanding, it's usually laughable. I love the series anyway. For me Bones was the best actor of the bunch.
It must have been the final season when they had the most ridiculous plot lines one can imagine, and any actor would have a hard time making any of the dialogue sound convincing. |
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| marantzo |
| Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:29 am |
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| My son is such a fanatic Star Trek fan that he never watches the spin-offs no matter that I tell him they are mostly very good. He is just a Star Trek purist. When he went to McGill University in Montreal and found out that is where Shatner went to U. he was thrilled. |
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| ehle64 |
| Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:21 am |
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Joe Vitus wrote: Hardly. He was going back to the Travolta persona of Kotter, Saturday Night Fever, and Grease.
Those three roles had cold-hearted assassin written all over them. . .  |
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| Marc |
| Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:45 am |
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| My thoughts exactly ehle. |
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| carrobin |
| Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:00 am |
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I think successful comics have a problem with serious roles because people expect them to be funny, whereas serious actors who take on comedy roles delight the audience. (My mother told me once that she was very disappointed as a teenager when she went to see "The Human Comedy" and it wasn't funny.)
I remember a weird experience at the theater the second time I saw "Bent." The play begins with a lot of witty humor but darkens as it goes on into the Nazi ambiance and ends up in a concentration camp. There were some people in the audience who wouldn't let go of the idea that it was supposed to be a comedy--they kept laughing at any line that could be construed as amusing, ironic, or in any way unserious. I wondered how the actors felt about that reaction. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:49 pm |
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Marc wrote: My thoughts exactly ehle.
And mine. Don't know where Joe was coming from on that one. |
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| McBain |
| Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:42 pm |
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| Also, don't mess with Shatner. |
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| lady wakasa |
| Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 2:22 pm |
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Fresh off the NPR website:
Quote: Today's Beatles news is that Disney is working out a deal for Robert Zemeckis to access Beatles tunes to remake Yellow Submarine. Not only is a movie remake planned, but there's interest in a Broadway show.
Broadway show I dunno about... but I *might* be able to buy into a movie remake. If they don't screw up it.
Especially since it wasn't their voices anyway.
Link to that (which is blocked here): http://weblogs.variety.com/bfdealmemo/2009/08/disney-zemeckis-board-yellow-submarine.html |
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