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| ehle64 |
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I'll give you HOG but am wary of WASH
Since Juno there's been this whole "Michael Cera" type. And that bothers me. What we find endeering, Hollywood finds $$$$$$$$$. So they overdo it and you forget where you started from.
If Adventureland had half the heart of Juno I would have cut it some slack. |
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| ehle64 |
| Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 12:01 pm |
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| p.s. if that actress left her hair alone for a minute, that would sway me too |
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| whiskeypriest |
| Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 12:43 pm |
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Quote: What we find endeering, |
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| Syd |
| Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 1:30 pm |
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whiskeypriest wrote: Quote: What we find endeering, Something fawn like about the guy?
I see that. And Michael Cera too.
Ehle, you're right, he is a Cera type. But the movie doesn't remind me of Juno. It reminds me a bit of The Flamingo Kid, but that came out decades ago. |
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| gromit |
| Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 2:29 pm |
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How come no one told me there was a new Wallace & Gromit?
A Matter of Loaf and Death is a 30 minute Nick park short with all of the trademark wit, goofy puns, great characters, silly story and movie homages (mostly to Alien and Hitchcock). Seems this was released last Christmas on British TV.
One nice aspect is that most of the violence is either not shown or tempered with humor.
It's more or less the same story model as A Close Shave, but this time W&G are bakers.
Great fun. It seemed a little rushed at times, as though they had to condense it down to 30 minutes. The sets and camerawork are better than ever -- due to lessons learned on the feature film and improved technology.
Well worth seeing. |
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| Marc |
| Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 3:31 pm |
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I saw no similiraties between JUNO and ADVENTURELAND.
I detested JUNO. Not a single believable character in the whole movie. It was a bunch of actors mouthing Cody Diablo's oh-so-hip dialogue. Except it wasn't hip. A pop culture smorgasbord that might have been semi-cool if it had been released in the 80s. When a 16 year old girl's admission to her parents that she's pregnant is a lead-in for a string of one-liners my suspension of disbelief snaps. I have a daughter. I can assure you if she told me she was pregnant when she was 16, I would not have reacted with a bunch of clever remarks. I would have been deeply upset and torn up about how to deal with the situation.
In JUNO the parents are trying so hard to be "with it" that they come off as brain-addled, emotionally stunted idiots. |
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| Joe Vitus |
| Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 3:36 pm |
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| I agree. Everything about Juno felt false. Everything (or at least nearly everything) about Adventureland felt real. |
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| billyweeds |
| Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 4:10 pm |
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| Marc--I think we've had this conversation before, but I disagree totally with you about Juno. The parents were not trying to be hip; they were hip, perhaps somewhat unlikeably but genuinely so. I agree that the dialogue strained too hard to be clever for approximately the first half hour. Then something happened, and I became enamored of Juno, Michael Cera, Jennifer Garner and Jason Bateman, Juno's parents, etc. I loved it. |
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| Marc |
| Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 4:42 pm |
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Check out Mac's, Juno's father, response to hearing that his 16 year old daughter Juno is pregnant. Bren is the stepmother.
I've bolded a couple of Juno's lines because it seems so scripted and unnatural. I bolded the father's unbelievable summation of a very troubling situation.
Mac MacGuff: [a very pregnant Juno enters the room] Hey there, big puffy version of Junebug!
Leah: Dude, I think it's best to just tell 'em.
Juno MacGuff: I'm Pregnant.
Bren: Oh, God.
Juno MacGuff: But, uh ah, I'm going to give it up for adoption and I already found the perfect couple, they're going to pay for the medical expenses and everything. And and what ah 30 or odd weeks we can just pretend that this never happened.
Mac MacGuff: You're pregnant?
Juno MacGuff: I'm sorry. I'm sorry... And if it is any consolation I have heartburn that is radiating in my knee caps and I haven't taken a dump since like Wednesday... morning.
Bren: I didn't even know that you were sexually active.
Juno MacGuff: I, uh...
Mac MacGuff: Who is the kid?
Juno MacGuff: The-the baby? I don't really know much about it other than, I mean, it has fingernails, allegedly.
Bren: Nails, really?
Juno MacGuff: Yeah!
Mac MacGuff: No, I know I mean who's the father, Juno?
Juno MacGuff: Umm... It's Paulie Bleeker.
Mac MacGuff: Paulie Bleeker?
Juno MacGuff: What?
Mac MacGuff: I didn't think he had it in him.
Okay. The father upon just receiving the information that his 16 year old daughter is pregnant responds with a one liner. Unbelievable. Who are these people? |
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| ehle64 |
| Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:09 pm |
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I appreciate Juno.
I loathe Adventureland. |
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| Marc |
| Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:09 pm |
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An exchange between two teenage girls in Juno. Does this sound like young girls talking? Not to me. It reads exactly like the essays of 30 something screenwriter Diablo Cody. Cody's the kind of pseudo punk who uses a Brady Bunch lunchbox for a handbag, wears Doc Martin's, has alot of Iggy and some Yma Sumac on her ipod and a little bit of Donna Summer thrown in for the irony quotient. Cody probably broke a blood vessel in her brain coming up with the Diablo Cody moniker.
Leah: Yo Yo Yiggady Yo.
Juno MacGuff: I'm at suicide risk.
Leah: Juno?
Juno MacGuff: No, it's Morgan Freeman. Do you have any bones that need collecting?
Leah: Only the one in my pants...
Juno MacGuff: I'm pregnant.
Leah: What? Honest to blog?
Juno MacGuff: Yeah. Yeah, it's Bleekers.
Leah: It's probably just a food baby. Did you have a big lunch?
Juno MacGuff: No, this is not a food baby all right? I've taken like three pregnancy tests, and I'm forshizz up the spout.
Leah: How did you even generate enough pee for three pregnancy tests? That's amazing...
Juno MacGuff: I don't know, I drank like, ten tons of Sunny D... Anyway dude, I'm telling you I'm pregnant and you're acting shockingly cavalier.
Leah: Is this for real? Like, for real for real?
Juno MacGuff: Unfortunately, yes.
Leah: Oh my GOD. Oh shit! Phuket, Thailand!
Juno MacGuff: There we go. That was kind of the emotion that I was searching for on the first take. |
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| ehle64 |
| Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:11 pm |
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| Wow. you hate diablo. I bet you guys would have mad sex. |
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| Marc |
| Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:13 pm |
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| Marc |
| Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:16 pm |
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Wade,
I am really surprised you disliked ADVENTURELAND so much. If nothing else, it has the best soundtrack in a film this year.
Looking forward to your take on 500 DAYS OF SUMMER.
And just between you and me, I found parts of JUNO very charming and funny. I just didn't believe it for a minute. I also liked The Moldy Peaches soundtrack.
Also, I pm'd you. |
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| ehle64 |
| Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:17 pm |
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| if only i were str8 we'd have a "squal\bbler" or whatevs i love u but to not recognize the similarities is beneath you mon friend. |
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