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yambu
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 9:38 am Reply with quote
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I liked Ballet Russes a lot, and while I enjoyed all the political intrigue that always seems integral to any serious creative process, I certainly was not able to follow it all to the degree which Syd has. Syd, did you get all that history from your viewing, or have you supplemented it with outside sources?

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Syd
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 10:50 am Reply with quote
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yambu wrote:
I liked Ballet Russes a lot, and while I enjoyed all the political intrigue that always seems integral to any serious creative process, I certainly was not able to follow it all to the degree which Syd has. Syd, did you get all that history from your viewing, or have you supplemented it with outside sources?


I checked some details on Wikipedia but most of it came from the movie itself. I was writing my review as I watched.

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Marj
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 2:33 pm Reply with quote
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billyweeds wrote:
I seem to be having an unofficial Nicolas Cage festival. Saw Knowing, this year's Cage science fiction epic, which is quite entertaining and suspenseful but pretty cheesy in general. I've neither read nor seen The Da Vinci Code, but Knowing seems to be similar. A bunch of random-seeming numbers are put into a time capsule in 1959 by a weird little girl with a blank stare. Fifty years later--i.e., now--the time capsule is opened up and bad things are predicted, a lot of which have already--gulp!--happened. What's next? That's Cage's puzzle. Bad things ensue. Close Encounters is referenced. Yawn, and occasionally shudder.

It's kind of fun without being in any way exceptional.

Btw, it's strongly reminiscent of the dreaded Signs, which I loved to distraction and which many, many (including many here) loathe. I didn't like Knowing as much, which may mean something or nothing, but it's similar. Both got four stars from Ebert.


Yawn and occasional shudder is right!

Actually in all fairness the first half of Knowing might have been intriguing had it not been given away in the trailers. But once it hits about 1:20 it really jumps the shark. There were so many times I laughed out loud. But I can't say I wasn't warned. Thank goodness!
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Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 7:21 pm Reply with quote
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Marj wrote:

Actually in all fairness the first half of Knowing might have been intriguing had it not been given away in the trailers. But once it hits about 1:20 it really jumps the shark. There were so many times I laughed out loud. But I can't say I wasn't warned. Thank goodness!


I love "Jump the shark". It's a laser-targeted pop reference which makes absolutely no sense unless you know the backstory, which my generation can proudly say it does. It's like being able to reveal the inside scoop on the equally arcane, "Bob's your uncle."
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Joe Vitus
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 1:15 pm Reply with quote
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Being a little kid when the episode aired, and a huge fan of Jaws and Happy Days, I thought it was awesome that Fonzie jumped that shark.

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Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:51 pm Reply with quote
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Yes Man was a typical Jim Carrey movie, containing all sorts of his physical comedic movements and actions. Although not as funny as Bruce Almighty, it did have it moments of being a good story told well on the slightly smaller screen.

It mated real life situations with a good amount of humor and comedy thrown in to make it worth sitting still for almost 2 hours.

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gromit
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:38 pm Reply with quote
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Well, I watched the Watchmen which wore out its welcome after 2 hours. Some of the acting was poor (hello Laurie Jupiter) and at times the dialogue was really feeble. The love affair between Laurie and the Owl guy was exceedingly boring.

The Dr. Manhattan storyline always seemed like it was on the verge of being profound or interesting. Mostly it looked a lot like some Rene Laloux animation, especially when he shifts to Mars. I probably ended up liking the Rorschach stuff the best, with Jackie Earle Haley doing his best Clint Eastwood imitation. Even if it descended into Con Air territory and most other cliches of indestructible psycho killers/fighters.

The running Nixon joke was rather dull and wasn't handled very well, which is maybe a partial reflection of how much worse more recent Republican presidents have been.

What I didn't understand is why these masked avengers were expert fighters, able to dish out and endure tremendous violence. For example I don't recall Einstein being a mixed martial arts champion, but here "the world's smartest man" (what did he win a contest?) is skinny but ultra-powerful.

So where did they get their powers from?
Dr. Manhattan's situation is explained -- though that sequence of him getting locked in with the testing was pretty lame and about as convincing a backstory as Peter Parker's radioactive spider bite.

Anyway, I got tired of the repeated flashbacks. And the director sure loved rapid macro-pullbacks to reveal characters as ants among giant landscapes. Along with focusing on one small item crashing down after a fall or explosion. Repeating these techniques dulled any impact and made it seem that the director fell in love with CGI and other tricks like a fanboy.

Cut an hour, limit flashbacks, replace Laurie with an actress and reduce her role to little or nothing, and sharpen the focus on Manhattan and Rorschach and it might be a good film.

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Syd
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:47 pm Reply with quote
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Dr. Manhattan was the only one with superpowers. Ozymandias did do a couple of things that seemed unnatural, but it had something to do with his mental discipline, mystical martial arts and the armor he wore.

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gromit
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 4:13 am Reply with quote
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That's basically what I understood. So how can Laurie Jupiter and Dan Owl Guy beat up everyone who comes at them. Rorschach too. And yet Ozymandias can beat all three of them?
Not too worried about it, but it seemed they had fairly unlimited kick-assability just because they donned a costume.
Of course the retired costumed heroes were still pretty damn tough, but could be killed.

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Syd
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 12:14 pm Reply with quote
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Rorschach didn't need a costume to kick ass. His strength is as the strength of ten because his heart is psychotic.

I do have a problem with Nite Owl kinking ass because he was retired and out of shape. Rorschach was still active and Ozymandias kept himself in shape and his armor enhanced his speed and strength. And there's that secret headquarters on a mountaintop where costumed vigilantes go to learn martial arts. Batman Returns has the details.

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billyweeds
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:13 am Reply with quote
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Near Dark, directed by Kathryn Bigelow, is one of the best vampire movies I've ever seen. It's scary, funny, bizarre, borderline perverse, and well acted, especially by a young Bill Paxton, who I didn't recognize while I kept saying to myself, "Who is this dynamite actor?"

Now I have to listen to at least some of the director's commentary on the DVD to see what Bigelow sounds like. The Hurt Locker should be a great DVD package. (If it's not heads should roll.)


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marantzo
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:16 am Reply with quote
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Heard Bigelow interviewed the other day. I was impressed. Intelligent and seemed very nice and down to earth.
Marc
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:24 pm Reply with quote
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billy,

if you have the recently released NEAR DARK deluxe edition, there is a special documentary where all of the actors and Bigelow are interviewed on screen. You must see it.
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billyweeds
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:28 pm Reply with quote
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Marc wrote:
billy,

if you have the recently released NEAR DARK deluxe edition, there is a special documentary where all of the actors and Bigelow are interviewed on screen. You must see it.


Don't think that's the one I've got, but I'll check again.
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billyweeds
Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:31 pm Reply with quote
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My favorite moment of many great ones in Near Dark:

Paxton climbing on the truck, saying, "Fasten your fucking seat belt!"
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